[Patrick]

Originally Posted by smeagol

people who think conors actions are ok are beyond help they are no different to conor. id love for them to have someone say it about someone they know and see what they do. lets see if they take it as a joke , guarenteed not. try saying what conor said anywhere in public see how you get on.
this is national tv. if you love big brother you wouldn't want this sort of thing on it.

people astound me.

Actions? They were words - words that weren't even said in a serious tone.

Again. Over exaggerating as Locke said - you're all acting like he sweared up to her face or hit her.

[Holly Christmas]

Originally Posted by Patrick

Actions? They were words - words that weren't even said in a serious tone.

Again. Over exaggerating as Locke said - you're all acting like he sweared up to her face or hit her.

the level of aggression he displayed Patrick was one step away, just that. Very very uncomfortable to watch.

[Jords]

Originally Posted by Patrick

Actions? They were words - words that weren't even said in a serious tone.

Again. Over exaggerating as Locke said - you're all acting like he sweared up to her face or hit her.

So you saying Deana would have to be hit for something to be done? Really Paddy really for goodness sake?

People need to remember. Most of the house is against Deana, and this has been ongoing for a the past couple of weeks. The intimidation against her is increasing and increasing. It wasnt "banter" it was trying to be a big hard **** infront of the other chavs.

[Patrick]

Originally Posted by Jords

So you saying Deana would have to be hit for something to be done? Really Paddy really for goodness sake?

People need to remember. Most of the house is against Deana, and this has been ongoing for a the past couple of weeks. The intimidation against her is increasing and increasing. It wasnt "banter" it was trying to be a big hard **** infront of the other chavs.

No Jords.

You all seem to think I'm supporting him - I'm not. I just think he wasn't as aggressive or as upfront as you're all making out.

The guy came out, and didn't even speak about what was said in the Diary Room because Deana was present - he said it in a joking manner and that's that. No point in everyone crying over it and acting like it's the worst thing that's ever happened on the show. FFS.

[dyfed]

Originally Posted by Patrick

No Jords.

You all seem to think I'm supporting him - I'm not. I just think he wasn't as aggressive or as upfront as you're all making out.

The guy came out, and didn't even speak about what was said in the Diary Room because Deana was present - he said it in a joking manner and that's that. No point in everyone crying over it and acting like it's the worst thing that's ever happened on the show. FFS.

Anyone with a shred of remorse,would have apologized to BB and those in his company when he said it,is this what he does when he gets angry ?? he needs more self control.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Jords

So you saying Deana would have to be hit for something to be done? Really Paddy really for goodness sake?

People need to remember. Most of the house is against Deana, and this has been ongoing for a the past couple of weeks. The intimidation against her is increasing and increasing. It wasnt "banter" it was trying to be a big hard **** infront of the other chavs.

WHY are most of the house against her? I think you need to think there must be a damn good reason most of them dislike her

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

WHY are most of the house against her? I think you need to think there must be a damn good reason most of them dislike her

[Jords]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

WHY are most of the house against her? I think you need to think there must be a damn good reason most of them dislike her

Why must it be a damn good reason? Have you not been on the opposite side of pack mentality at all in your life? I have and sometimes theres no reason other than just because they are a bunch of low lives.

But they have a reason. They are fixed on the idea she acts up to the camera, when she really does not.

But lets just think about it...
Arron doesnt with his pranks????
Shievonne doesnt acting mum????
etc. etc.

Hypocrites.

[rinkydinkpanther]

Originally Posted by Jords

Why must it be a damn good reason? Have you not been on the opposite side of pack mentality at all in your life? I have and sometimes theres no reason other than just because they are a bunch of low lives.

But they have a reason. They are fixed on the idea she acts up to the camera, when she really does not.

But lets just think about it...
Arron doesnt with his pranks????
Shievonne doesnt acting mum????
etc. etc.

Hypocrites.

great points, theyre all playing to the cameras one way or anotherits probably jealousy and as you say pack mentality to try and destroy the opposition....she is absolutely gorgeous, tall, elegant, beautiful dark sultry eyes, heaving bosom and a black belt in karaoke....hmmmm Im going to take a benedict shower

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Jords

Why must it be a damn good reason? Have you not been on the opposite side of pack mentality at all in your life? I have and sometimes theres no reason other than just because they are a bunch of low lives.

But they have a reason. They are fixed on the idea she acts up to the camera, when she really does not.

But lets just think about it...
Arron doesnt with his pranks????
Shievonne doesnt acting mum????
etc. etc.

Hypocrites.

WE watch 1 hour out of 24 ,WE dont see what goes on the rest of the time, its clear something must be going on

[Jords]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

WE watch 1 hour out of 24 ,WE dont see what goes on the rest of the time, its clear something must be going on

Its not clear at all, how can you base it on assumption?

What is clear however is that Deana is not in their pack and will quite willingly fight back.

Go figure Chuff, go figure.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Jords

Its not clear at all, how can you base it on assumption?

What is clear however is that Deana is not in their pack and will quite willingly fight back.

Go figure Chuff, go figure.

So you KNOW whats happening for the other 23 hours? Of course you odnt,but clearly SOMETHING is going on ,or why would MOST of the hm8s dislike Deana? Last week Lauren was the poor bullied one, this week its Deana ,people need to get a grip

[Indy]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

WHY are most of the house against her? I think you need to think there must be a damn good reason most of them dislike her

Because they had open nomination discussion for 2 weeks and the group of "alphas" needed a target. If it wasn't Deana, it would've been someone else. It just happens that it is Deana, and Conor took it way too far, and now here we are. This could just as easily be Sara instead of Deana, or Lauren, or Victoria if she was still in the house.

ETA:

he hasnt otherwise shown even the remotest hint that he has been violent or threatening

Go re-watch the grunting between him and Luke S while Benedict was leaving the house.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Indy

Because they had open nomination discussion for 2 weeks and the group of "alphas" needed a target. If it wasn't Deana, it would've been someone else. It just happens that it is Deana, and Conor took it way too far, and now here we are. This could just as easily be Sara instead of Deana, or Lauren, or Victoria if she was still in the house.

ETA:


Go re-watch the grunting between him and Luke S while Benedict was leaving the house.

Last week it was Lauren who was the poor victim ,so that contradacites that argument

[Jords]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Last week it was Lauren who was the poor victim ,so that contradacites that argument

Actually Conor/Luke S/Arron never victimized Lauren, that was all Sara and Ashleigh then Caroline/Scott/Becky got involved.

[Indy]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Last week it was Lauren who was the poor victim ,so that contradacites that argument

Pointing out that there have been other victims contradicts the argument that the individual person being targeted by the group is irrelevant? Could you explain that logic, please?

[Black Dagger]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

WHY are most of the house against her? I think you need to think there must be a damn good reason most of them dislike her

It's probably pack mentality, they see her as an easy target.

Was exactly the same with me at school, I had glasses, a funny hair-cut, dressed smartly and used a wide vocabulary... = instant target.

It happens.

[smeagol]

Originally Posted by Patrick

Actions? They were words - words that weren't even said in a serious tone.

Again. Over exaggerating as Locke said - you're all acting like he sweared up to her face or hit her.

tell that to your lawyer lol

There is no excuses on this planet you can come up with that will justify conors behaviour. not one person here sticking up for him would put up with iin their lives so why keep defending him.
people just want him removed from the house not ww3 not closing bb down and channel 5 and nukeing the planet. its a simple valid and justified request remove the thug.

[Indy]

Originally Posted by Patrick

Actions? They were words - words that weren't even said in a serious tone.

Again. Over exaggerating as Locke said - you're all acting like he sweared up to her face or hit her.

They were said in a serious tone - he admitted himself they were angry and not joking, even though he's still not really owning his full responsibility in saying them. It's also not the first violent threat he's made in the past week - it is, however, the first one he's made where he's in a position to carry it out.

What people are picking up on is that they are the words and tone of an abuser. It's easy to blow that off as overdramatic, but it's on the checklists used by battered women's shelters for a REASON. That is not a thought that randomly pops into a sober man's head on a whim, nor is it one that he wordvomits into a group of other people for ****s and giggles.

It doesn't matter if he has ever harmed anyone before - all that matters is that he is currently in a position to harm someone now and has displayed enough lack of self control to take it as far as he has already. Bottom line - if he does get any more jacked up and go after Deana, the only person in there who is really capable of stopping him before someone can come through the walls is Lauren, and he outweighs her by how much?

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Patrick

Actions? They were words - words that weren't even said in a serious tone.

Again. Over exaggerating as Locke said - you're all acting like he sweared up to her face or hit her.

..yeah they were words Patrick..but he did say them with real feeling, which he later admitted himself..he was angry..they were threatening words which shouldn't be tolerated by BB