[the truth]

Originally Posted by vortex

I just hope that woman is never invited again to the show, BB alone is a mess at this point, BOTS doesn't need to follow the same path.

bots has been garbage beyond description thiis season, emma willis is part of the problem too, she encourages morons and moronic behaviour...she also is biased against hetrosexual male housemates imho

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by lostalex

I doubt emma gives a fook, Emma doesn't strike me as the most socially or politically aware person.

Did you actually see it? Emma handled the comment very well.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by CherieB

Did you actually see it? Emma handled the comment very well.

no i havn't seen it yet

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by lostalex

no i havn't seen it yet

I was impressed with Emma, I think you will be too!

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by CherieB

I was impressed with Emma, I think you will be too!

I've just watched it. And i watched the show from the beginning, and trying to pick out who in the audience would make such a transphobic comment, and i'm ashamed to say that i got it totally wrong. I picked the older white lady in the back row, thinking, yes, she looks like the transphobic person. I was shocked when i saw who it actually was. turns out it was a young(ish) black woman. Proves you can't assume anything. I actually feel guilty for thinking it was gonna be the older white lady.

It just proves that prejudice is BS.

I agree that the audience and Emma responded appropriately, I hope that woman isn't allowed back on BOTS.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Luke A was never a woman. he was born genetically female. If you think having a vag is all there is to being a woman then you don't know much. Gender identity is not just about yur physiology. Luke A had female physiology as a child yes, but before puberty there is really very little difference between boys and girls.

I can't tell if you are genuinely ignorant on this topic, or if you are trolling. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are genuinely ignorant.

The good news is that we live in the information age, and you can easily do some research to educate yourself about gender identity.

Great post, excellent points and very well said, one of the best posts I have seen on tibb anywhere.Well said Lostalex.

[Kizzy]

I was shocked by this comment, emma handled it well. Doubt that audience member will be invited back ever haha.

[Livia]

If the woman who made the comment had found herself on the end of a racist comment, she'd have been jumping up and down with rage.

Luke A has probably been through all the sh1t in the world and heard it all at least twice. Had he been in the studio he probably would have handled the comment with the dignity he obviously has to have come this far. And if people want to make iffy comments about him, let's face it, it says far more about them than it says about Luke.

[lostalex]

i did notice Emma didn't respond until she heard the audience reaction.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by lostalex

i did notice Emma didn't respond until she heard the audience reaction.

I don't think so it was pretty instant, she was a bit taken aback is all.

[Grotbags]

Originally Posted by lostalex

i did notice Emma didn't respond until she heard the audience reaction.

To be fair to Emma, I think she took a beat to respond because of the shock of what the woman said. Emma did seem quite disgusted with the comment.

I agree that the woman should have been removed from the audience. I was shocked when it came back from the break and she was still there.

[thesheriff443]

whats is so shocking?
the facts are luke was born a woman and is still a woman in his mind he feels he is a man and wants to be know as a man.
im not against transexuals and people can live how they choose but it dont matter how opened minded you are the facts are the facts.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

whats is so shocking?
the facts are luke was born a woman and is still a woman in his mind he feels he is a man and wants to be know as a man.
im not against transexuals and people can live how they choose but it dont matter how opened minded you are the facts are the facts.

Those arn't the facts though, that's where you are tragically ignorant. You obviously don't know ANYTHING about the FACTS when it comes to this. Please inform us which internationally recognized science journal you have gotten these facts from. Because everything you've just said goes against all recognized science that i've read. so please, give us your source.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

whats is so shocking?
the facts are luke was born a woman and is still a woman in his mind he feels he is a man and wants to be know as a man.
im not against transexuals and people can live how they choose but it dont matter how opened minded you are the facts are the facts.

Being open minded is one thing. Allowing someone to ridicule someone else in the hope of getting a cheap laugh is another.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Those arn't the facts though, that's where you are tragically ignorant. You obviously don't know ANYTHING about the FACTS when it comes to this.

so are you saying luke was not born a female?

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

so are you saying luke was not born a female?

Luke is not a Woman.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Livia

Being open minded is one thing. Allowing someone to ridicule someone else in the hope of getting a cheap laugh is another.

it was a cheap laugh and in the end the women was made to look stupid.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

it was a cheap laugh and in the end the women was made to luke stupid.

so you accept then that you also look stupid, because you've said things every bit as ignorant as her.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by lostalex

don't get yur hopes up, obviously he has multiple accounts, say hello to "thesheriff443"

there is only one of me!
i have no axe to grind on this subject or want to cause drama my moto is live and let live but in the same breath i am not afraid to discuss this subject.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by lostalex

so you accept then that you also look stupid, because you've said things every bit as ignorant as her.

what have i said that was ignorant? all i have done is expressed my opinion as you have yours the problem is i accept your opinion but you wont accept mine.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

there is only one of me!
i have no axe to grind on this subject or want to cause drama my moto is live and let live but in the same breath i am not afraid to discuss this subject.

I don't understand why you think there is anything to discuss.

It's like saying you'd like to discuss if grass is green, but you are color blind.

We've told you the grass is green, and you can't see it. what is there to discuss?

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by lostalex

I don't understand why you think there is anything to discuss.

It's like saying you'd like to discuss if grass is green, but you are color blind.

We've told you the grass is green, and you can't see it. what is there to discuss?

to be fair who are you or anyone else to tell me that the grass is green thats like me saying to luke a your a woman accept it.

[Marc]

He'll be evicted soon, this thread will become obsolete soon.

[MTVN]

What's the problem with accepting he's a man though, he feels he has always been one, he's had/is having surgery to that effect and he's only ever been presented to us as male, there's no reason to consider him otherwise

Originally Posted by InOne

How long is ElProximo banned for this time?

Just a day for now

[Marc]

Didn't know that was famous at all.

Can we bring this thread back around to it's actual purpose, discussing the transphobic comment on BOTS.