[kistar]

Set an example show Caroline how he thought she should have acted, rather than do exactly the same thing puts him in the same category, if he is not careful he will become the new villain.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

At least she's up front about being awful, he tries too hard to come across as a decent human being.

I'm starting to agree with this really, I don't mind him but he's desperate to present himself as a really nice, genuine guy contrasted with the terrible human beings of the Insiders

[kistar]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I'm starting to agree with this really, I don't mind him but he's desperate to present himself as a really nice, genuine guy contrasted with the terrible human beings of the Insiders

And he is doing the things he said he hated about the insiders he is a hypocrite .

[Patricia4]

Luke A is a wicked human being.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Is he hellaslike !! you are talking out of your ass ,what wrong are you a Deana fan ? has it sunk in Luke A will win ? sour grapes flower ....very hard to swallow

Most Deana fans like Luke A

[Niamh.]

People deserve to be treated the way they treat others, only way they'll learn imo

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

People deserve to be treated the way they treat others, only way they'll learn imo

I think this is lacking in Carolines life, clearly been spoilt to the extreme,maybe by parents who have dumped her off in boarding school and made her someone elses problem

[kistar]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

People deserve to be treated the way they treat others, only way they'll learn imo

I personally think you should treat others how you want to be treated your self, live by example it's the only way to make a difference, tit for tat is ridiculous and things never get resolved, in a personal war like they are having one party needs to move things forward by changing how they are , understanding the bigger picture and knowing that's how to get resolution. Luke A is 31 he should be doing that.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by kistar

I personally think you should treat others how you want to be treated your self, live by example it's the only way to make a difference, tit for tat is ridiculous and things never get resolved, in a personal war like they are having one party needs to move things forward by changing how they are , understanding the bigger picture and knowing that's how to get resolution. Luke A is 31 he should be doing that.

So because Luke is 31 he should take **** from a teenage brat ? i dont think so

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I think this is lacking in Carolines life, clearly been spoilt to the extreme,maybe by parents who have dumped her off in boarding school and made her someone elses problem

That seems pretty likely Chuff.

Originally Posted by kistar

I personally think you should treat others how you want to be treated your self, live by example it's the only way to make a difference, tit for tat is ridiculous and things never get resolved, in a personal war like they are having one party needs to move things forward by changing how they are , understanding the bigger picture and knowing that's how to get resolution. Luke A is 31 he should be doing that.

I disagree, in my own personal experience I've found if you let people get away with bad behaviour they'll keep on walking all over you, if you stand up for yourself and give back what you're getting from them, they tend to not treat you badly in future. It doesn't change them in general but it does make them treat you personally different because they know you won't be treated that way easily. I don't think people like Caroline learn from others being nice, that just makes them push boundaries even further.

What you're saying should be the way to change peoples perspectives but sadly it just doesn't work on most people.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

That seems pretty likely Chuff.



I disagree, in my own personal experience I've found if you let people get away with bad behaviour they'll keep on walking all over you, if you stand up for yourself and give back what you're getting from them, they tend to not treat you badly in future. It doesn't change them in general but it does make them treat you personally different because they know you won't be treated that way easily. I don't think people like Caroline learn from others being nice, that just makes them push boundaries even further.

What you're saying should be the way to change peoples perspectives but sadly it just doesn't work on most people.

this is SO TRUE. It is as much to do with how a person reacts as to how a situation will progress. It's sometimes hard to stand up to very dominant people, but it's better for people to do it straight off the bat, than try to do so later on, if possible.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

That seems pretty likely Chuff.



I disagree, in my own personal experience I've found if you let people get away with bad behaviour they'll keep on walking all over you, if you stand up for yourself and give back what you're getting from them, they tend to not treat you badly in future. It doesn't change them in general but it does make them treat you personally different because they know you won't be treated that way easily. I don't think people like Caroline learn from others being nice, that just makes them push boundaries even further.

What you're saying should be the way to change peoples perspectives but sadly it just doesn't work on most people.

True ,for months when i was in junior school this minger used to stand and wait for me at school gates to scrag me all over playground with my hair, I was **** scared of her and didnt tell my Mam,but someone else did, she went nuts, she said tomorrow you hit her back or you will get it forever, all the way up the hill next morning i was shaking like a ****ting dog, but there she was ,stood waiting ,and before she got chance to grab my hair I twatted her a beauty, she never did it again !!

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

So because Luke is 31 he should take **** from a teenage brat ? i dont think so

He should be old enough to know to rise above it.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

He should be old enough to know to rise above it.

No way should he take it,no matter what his age

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

He should be old enough to know to rise above it.

The minute you hit your 30's you should become a doormat? I don't think so.

[MatthewS]

^^

You think that Caroline is a dominant person? Compared to Luke A?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I disagree, in my own personal experience I've found if you let people get away with bad behaviour they'll keep on walking all over you, if you stand up for yourself and give back what you're getting from them, they tend to not treat you badly in future. It doesn't change them in general but it does make them treat you personally different because they know you won't be treated that way easily. I don't think people like Caroline learn from others being nice, that just makes them push boundaries even further.

What you're saying should be the way to change peoples perspectives but sadly it just doesn't work on most people.

Indeed.

Petty as it may be, Im all for tit for tat. Rather that than be a doormat

[Tom4784]

Caroline is childish and looking for a reaction, by playing her at her own game he's just shown himself to be just as bad rather then being seen as being better.

It takes a better person to rise above it then to resort to tit for tat.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by MatthewS

^^

You think that Caroline is a dominant person? Compared to Luke A?

I think she's a person who has constantly tried to belittle her HMs and acts in an incredibly insensitive manner

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Caroline is childish and looking for a reaction, by playing her at her own game he's just shown himself to be just as bad rather then being seen as being better.

It takes a better person to rise above it then to resort to tit for tat.

Naah ......revenge is sweet

[MatthewS]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I think she's a person who has constantly tried to belittle her HMs and acts in an incredibly insensitive manner

Kinda like how she belittled Sara last night?

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Caroline is childish and looking for a reaction, by playing her at her own game he's just shown himself to be just as bad rather then being seen as being better.

It takes a better person to rise above it then to resort to tit for tat.

Agree, Caroline could not care less what Adam or Luke A do or think about her, by resorting to playing her games they just look has childish has her & for grown men at their age it is sad.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by MatthewS

Kinda like how she belittled Sara last night?

Yes just like that

[MatthewS]

Originally Posted by Ellen

Agree, Caroline could not care less what Adam or Luke A do or think about her, by resorting to playing her games they just look has childish has her & for grown men at their age it is sad.

Why should she care though? They don't like eachother. It's a two way street. I doubt Adam or Luke A care about what Caroline thinks/says about them either.

Truth be told, I like that the line is clearly drawn. It's better then them being "fake nice" just because....

[Gillian-73]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

That seems pretty likely Chuff.



I disagree, in my own personal experience I've found if you let people get away with bad behaviour they'll keep on walking all over you, if you stand up for yourself and give back what you're getting from them, they tend to not treat you badly in future. It doesn't change them in general but it does make them treat you personally different because they know you won't be treated that way easily. I don't think people like Caroline learn from others being nice, that just makes them push boundaries even further.

What you're saying should be the way to change peoples perspectives but sadly it just doesn't work on most people.

Well said. Brilliant
post, i totally agree!