[sampvt]

Originally Posted by kefln

So that would be a flat out no then.

Reading between the lines as an independant it looks like a middle finger but that wouldnt be chuffs way so we will leave the jury out on that one. Why dont you ask me why she is vile,,,,,,,no need I will tell you. BECAUSE I SAID SO. I am after all allowed an opinon and my findings are based on hundreds of hours of vt,s and posts so dont ask me to prove my statement, my fingers cant type that much. You are going to have to take me on my word for this one, she is evil personified (not her person, her methods) so dont go saying I hate her, I dont, I hate her ways.

[smeagol]

Originally Posted by kefln

The question still had to be asked.

I'm quite willing to have an open debate on the matter, its completely up to them.

good luck many have tried many have gave up lol

[Livia]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I dont think Deana obcessives have noticed yet the fact that i blank them, oh well not everyone is quick to think

If 'obcessive' was an actual word, I'm sure we'd all be more insulted....

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Reading between the lines as an independant it looks like a middle finger but that wouldnt be chuffs way so we will leave the jury out on that one. Why dont you ask me why she is vile,,,,,,,no need I will tell you. BECAUSE I SAID SO. I am after all allowed an opinon and my findings are based on hundreds of hours of vt,s and posts so dont ask me to prove my statement, my fingers cant type that much. You are going to have to take me on my word for this one, she is evil personified (not her person, her methods) so dont go saying I hate her, I dont, I hate her ways.

Hear ,hear !!!!!!! but I would change one thing ,i DO hate her and everything she stands for with a passion

[Jimrod]

Originally Posted by kefln

So that would be a flat out no then.

It's just typical troll behaviour, spout nonsense and then when asked a direct question ignore it as you have no actual content to what you're saying. I always see these types like Brick Tamland from Anchorman just shouting "LOUD NOISES!!" and running around their room banging off stationary objects.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by smeagol

you wont get a reply cause there is no justfied reason for what is said most of the time. its just bait for us fishes lol

So why do you bite?hook line and sinker

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by kazanne

So why do you bite?hook line and sinker

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Livia

If 'obcessive' was an actual word, I'm sure we'd all be more insulted....

Being an all powerful legal eagle you must have been quick to see that was a typo. Im just a little surprised to see you stoop so low and take the piss out of something that happens on here all the time. your choice i guess.

[smeagol]

Originally Posted by kazanne

So why do you bite?hook line and sinker

cause im a silly fish lol i come on this plaice and think oh cod it i,ll post as some have a chip on their shoulders lol. i just hope i dont end up on cod roe .
i shouldn't really as it gives me a hadock i mean headache

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by kazanne

So why do you bite?hook line and sinker

Will you quit doing this, these people are not in your league today, its like watching Man utd playing the dog and duck from altringham.

[Vladimir]

she must win

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Being an all powerful legal eagle you must have been quick to see that was a typo. Im just a little surprised to see you stoop so low and take the piss out of something that happens on here all the time. your choice i guess.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by smeagol

cause im a silly fish lol i come on this plaice and think oh cod it i,ll post as some have a chip on their shoulders lol. i just hope i dont end up on cod roe .
i shouldn't really as it gives me a hadock i mean headache

You deserve to be battered and fried

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Will you quit doing this, these people are not in your league today, its like watching Man utd playing the dog and duck from altringham.

sorry Sampvt,sometimes i have to bite my lip but sometimes i just cantgood job they have rules on here really

[kefln]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Reading between the lines as an independant it looks like a middle finger but that wouldnt be chuffs way so we will leave the jury out on that one.

I think we can leave Chuff to answer for themselves.

And I would appreciate you not using reference to the "middle finger". Again that is putting words into someone elses mouth and putting ideas into their heads.

Originally Posted by sampvt

Why dont you ask me why she is vile,,,,,,,no need I will tell you. BECAUSE I SAID SO. I am after all allowed an opinon and my findings are based on hundreds of hours of vt,s and posts so dont ask me to prove my statement, my fingers cant type that much. You are going to have to take me on my word for this one, she is evil personified (not her person, her methods) so dont go saying I hate her, I dont, I hate her ways.

I admire your loyalty to your posting friend, its unfortunate that they need you to cover for them. And again, on the hate thing, don't put words into my mouth.

So back to the topic on hand, you are now are using the word "vile", mainly I understand to draw attention away from Chuff. But you openly admit that you are going on personal bias and are unwilling to elaborate?

Had you said that you "disliked" her, or that she was "unpleasant", or that you found her "disagreeable", then you might have a case for personal opinion alone. We are all entitled to those sorts of feelings. Its based completely on our outlook on life, on how we live, our hobbies and interests, the sort of people that engage us and what we see in ourselves.

For example, I dislike Ash. I find her unpleasant. I don't enjoy watching her and I don't find her entertaining. She seems to lack a basic education, or has chosen to ignore it, and her use of language is appalling. Those are my personal opinions and I have a right to them. I don't have to justify them, but I can, if questioned.

By definition, to say that Deana is vile, or that her actions are vile, is to say that she is disgusting, morally debased, depraved, or despicable. Which of course is a huge accusation and does require more than "because I said so".

In my opinion Deana has done nothing on the show that could be considered "vile”. And I believe that it would be fairly hard to prove that her actions have been vile, because you would have to provide specifics, without bias, which you admit that you are unwilling to do. She has been lazy. She has been argumentative, but so have all the others. She has bitched, but isn’t the worst. She has been twofaced, again that has been fairly standard. She has picked on individuals, as have others. However she was targeted for considerable time, by certain HM’s, which did make for uncomfortable viewing. Course she also has been part of the team, has laughed, made friends and taken part in the tasks. All told a decent HM.

Now to compare and contrast, I have already pointed to the actions of two other HMs, that had to be cautioned by BB. One of which created such a stir that OFCOM had to get involved. Comparatively speaking, that makes Deana a mild protagonist at worst.

And I too have watched BB, hundreds of hours of vt's and have read the posts, the same ones that you have. So forgive me if I don't take you at your word, but this is an online forum, debate is what makes it interesting.

So again I have to ask you to elaborate, give me something, other than personal bias, something that might help me to understand your point of view.

[kefln]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Still waiting...

[kefln]

Originally Posted by sampvt

she is evil personified (not her person, her methods)

I find this statement interesting.

Evil personified is someone, or thing, an archetypal presence if you will, that brings distress or calamity. Sin, wickedness, hostility, hatred, violence are also part of its make up.

A very strong statement about a girl who has strong religious beliefs and who hasn't really shown much in the way of aggression. A bit of spite maybe, but not much else.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by kefln

I think we can leave Chuff to answer for themselves.

And I would appreciate you not using reference to the "middle finger". Again that is putting words into someone elses mouth and putting ideas into their heads.



I admire your loyalty to your posting friend, its unfortunate that they need you to cover for them. And again, on the hate thing, don't put words into my mouth.

So back to the topic on hand, you are now are using the word "vile", mainly I understand to draw attention away from Chuff. But you openly admit that you are going on personal bias and are unwilling to elaborate?

Had you said that you "disliked" her, or that she was "unpleasant", or that you found her "disagreeable", then you might have a case for personal opinion alone. We are all entitled to those sorts of feelings. Its based completely on our outlook on life, on how we live, our hobbies and interests, the sort of people that engage us and what we see in ourselves.

For example, I dislike Ash. I find her unpleasant. I don't enjoy watching her and I don't find her entertaining. She seems to lack a basic education, or has chosen to ignore it, and her use of language is appalling. Those are my personal opinions and I have a right to them. I don't have to justify them, but I can, if questioned.

By definition, to say that Deana is vile, or that her actions are vile, is to say that she is disgusting, morally debased, depraved, or despicable. Which of course is a huge accusation and does require more than "because I said so".

In my opinion Deana has done nothing on the show that could be considered "vile”. And I believe that it would be fairly hard to prove that her actions have been vile, because you would have to provide specifics, without bias, which you admit that you are unwilling to do. She has been lazy. She has been argumentative, but so have all the others. She has bitched, but isn’t the worst. She has been twofaced, again that has been fairly standard. She has picked on individuals, as have others. However she was targeted for considerable time, by certain HM’s, which did make for uncomfortable viewing. Course she also has been part of the team, has laughed, made friends and taken part in the tasks. All told a decent HM.

Now to compare and contrast, I have already pointed to the actions of two other HMs, that had to be cautioned by BB. One of which created such a stir that OFCOM had to get involved. Comparatively speaking, that makes Deana a mild protagonist at worst.

And I too have watched BB, hundreds of hours of vt's and have read the posts, the same ones that you have. So forgive me if I don't take you at your word, but this is an online forum, debate is what makes it interesting.

So again I have to ask you to elaborate, give me something, other than personal bias, something that might help me to understand your point of view.

Wait till hell freezes over, I aint doing your homework for you, i am too busy having a laugh. You see I dont need to cut myself when I shave or poke myself in the eye to feel pain, I prefer to live life to the full, have a laugh, say what i think and move on. Watching re runs of events already logged in the old napatodd dont float my boat. If you dont accept or understand my point, push the next button or if it offends you, put me on ignore. You are nowhere near clever enough to make me look daft on here, I do too good a job of that myself so you dont need to bother.

[kefln]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Wait till hell freezes over, I aint doing your homework for you, i am too busy having a laugh. You see I dont need to cut myself when I shave or poke myself in the eye to feel pain, I prefer to live life to the full, have a laugh, say what i think and move on. Watching re runs of events already logged in the old napatodd dont float my boat. If you dont accept or understand my point, push the next button or if it offends you, put me on ignore. You are nowhere near clever enough to make me look daft on here, I do too good a job of that myself so you dont need to bother.

Ah, a cheap shot and run for the hills then...

Ok, thats fine. At least I know where you stand.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by kefln

I find this statement interesting.

Evil personified is someone, or thing, an archetypal presence if you will, that brings distress or calamity. Sin, wickedness, hostility, hatred, violence are also part of its make up.

A very strong statement about a girl who has strong religious beliefs and who hasn't really shown much in the way of aggression. A bit of spite maybe, but not much else.

Yes I do believe she is very religious and very clean living, lol. Is this why she spends most of the day with her tits out, dancing like a pole dancing ***** and swears more like an Irish navvi and eats like a pig. By the way which religion was it again.

[Trasadkel1]

Originally Posted by sampvt

you say confident I say cocky and arrogant.

Agree with you. Cannot stand her!

[Jimrod]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Yes I do believe she is very religious and very clean living, lol. Is this why she spends most of the day with her tits out, dancing like a pole dancing ***** and swears more like an Irish navvi and eats like a pig. By the way which religion was it again.

Was that Ashleigh or Becky you're confusing Deana with?

[Marmalite]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Yes I do believe she is very religious and very clean living, lol. Is this why she spends most of the day with her tits out, dancing like a pole dancing ***** and swears more like an Irish navvi and eats like a pig. By the way which religion was it again.

WOW.... just..... WOW!

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by kefln

Ah, a cheap shot and run for the hills then...

Ok, thats fine. At least I know where you stand.

You feel the need to make me look cheap and call me a coward and a runner, I say you are making yourself look a little silly girl. However you have it your way. better you post small requests in the future and maybe people will take you seriously. In the meantime its been a pleasure.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Marmalite

WOW.... just..... WOW!

You see someone else in awe of her actions. sad isnt it for a religious girl.