[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Omah

Incidents involving guns make up less than one per cent of the total number of crimes committed in the UK every year.

What percentage is it in the US? What percentage is it in Canada? What percentage is it in Australia? You arn't comparing those numbers to countries that do arm officers, so we have no context.

You arn't giving us anything to compare it to.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by lostalex

What percentage is it in the US? What percentage is it in Canada? What percentage is it in Australia? You arn't comparing those numbers to countries that do arm officers, so we have no context.

You arn't giving us anything to compare it to.

With less than 5% of the world's population, the United States is home to roughly 35–50 per cent of the world's civilian-owned guns.

The US has the highest gun ownership rate in the world - an average of 88 per 100 people. That puts it first in the world for gun ownership - and even the number two country, Yemen, has significantly fewer - 54.8 per 100 people.

But the US does not have the worst firearm murder rate - that prize belongs to Honduras, El Salvador and Jamaica. In fact, the US is number 28, with a rate of 2.97 per 100,000 people.

England and Wales has a firearm murder rate of 0.07 per 100,000 people.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Omah

With less than 5% of the world's population, the United States is home to roughly 35–50 per cent of the world's civilian-owned guns.

The US has the highest gun ownership rate in the world - an average of 88 per 100 people. That puts it first in the world for gun ownership - and even the number two country, Yemen, has significantly fewer - 54.8 per 100 people.

But the US does not have the worst firearm murder rate - that prize belongs to Honduras, El Salvador and Jamaica. In fact, the US is number 28, with a rate of 2.97 per 100,000 people.

England and Wales has a firearm murder rate of 0.07 per 100,000 people.

you didn't answer my question. what percentage of crimes are committed with a gun in the US, in Canada, and in Australia? you said the UK has only 1% of crimes commited with a gun, but you havn't given us any numbers to compare it to.

None of the figures you just listed have anything to do with the question i asked you.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by lostalex

you didn't answer my question. what percentage of crimes are committed with a gun in the US, in Canada, and in Australia? you said the UK has only 1% of crimes commited with a gun, but you havn't given us any numbers to compare it to.

None of the figures you just listed have anything to do with the question i asked you.

The comparative firearm murder rate is, nonetheless, indicative .....

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Omah

The comparative firearm murder rate is, nonetheless, indicative .....

indicative of what?

Murderers in the US arn't getting their guns from the cops.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by lostalex

indicative of what?

Murderers in the US arn't getting their guns from the cops.

They may well be - just recently :

According to the NY Post, an NYPD cop was busted last night on charges of breaking into his colleagues’ lockers in their station house and stealing guns that were then sold on the street.

Police say Nicholas Mina, 31, stole four 9mm firearms from the seventh-floor locker room at the Ninth Precinct in the East Village.

http://globalgrind.com/news/nicholas...#ixzz26xbs72Rn

A Greenwood police cruiser was broken into Sunday and several guns were stolen.

The case is being investigated by the Greenwood County Sheriff's Office since the police cruiser belonged to the Greenwood Police Department, said Maj. William Kinney, with the Greenwood County Sheriff's Office.

"It's very dangerous, very dangerous," Kinney said. "These weapons are specialized for a particular unit and they are dangerous weapons."

According to a police report, an unmarked 2007 Ford Explorer, belonging to the department's narcotics unit, was the vehicle that was broken into. The report stated that the Explorer's doors were left unlocked. There were no signs of forced entry into the vehicle.

A pistol, a shotgun, a bulletproof vest, two thousand rounds of ammunition, several magazines for the pistol and a black patrol bag were stolen from the car.

"Any gun on the street in the hands of a criminal poses a threat," Kinney said.

http://www.independentmail.com/news/...d-police-crui/

BETHANY, Oklahoma -
A couple weeks ago, some guns were stolen in Logan County out of a car belonging to an undercover law enforcement officer. Now police say at least one weapon somehow got into the hands of a known gang member.

Bethany police say a home alarm went off in the 7100 block of N.W. 18th Street, alerting officers to a burglary in progress. Within four minutes, an officer arrived to find Latricicia Vaughn and Byron Rhodes sitting in a car backed in the driveway across the street.

Vaughn took off running and was soon caught. Rhodes was pulled from the car and taken into custody.

"That's one of our big thrills of police officers is catching criminals while they are committing crimes because that simply doesn't happen that often," Bethany Police Chief Phil Cole said.

Upon searching the car, the officer then discovered a gun under the seat. The serial number matched a gun stolen from the agent in Logan County.

"Even more exciting, we were able to recover a gun stolen from a Law Enforcement officer here in the state," Cole said.

Further investigation sent officers to another house where they served a search warrant in hopes of finding other weapons that were stolen from the officer.

There they found a sawed off shot gun, and another gun stolen from Pennsylvania.

Police say Rhodes is a known gang member and they are looking into if he used that stolen Logan county gun in recent crimes.

"He was possibly wanted in some drive-by shootings in Oklahoma City," Chief Cole said.

Currently Rhodes and Vaughn are facing charges of possession of a firearm while in the commission of a felony, attempted burglary, and knowing concealing stolen property.

http://www.newson6.com/story/1957772...-investigation

etc, etc .....

[Omah]

Originally Posted by lostalex

indicative of what?

The US firearm murder rate is 300 times that of England and Wales ..... since nearly everyone in the US has a gun and nearly everyone in England an Wales doesn't, I'd say that's indicative of gun ownership creating murder .....

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Omah

The US firearm murder rate is 300 times that of England and Wales ..... since nearly everyone in the US has a gun and nearly everyone in England an Wales doesn't, I'd say that's indicative of gun ownership creating murder .....

100% agree. lets hope enough intellgent people finally reach this obvious conclusion

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Omah

With less than 5% of the world's population, the United States is home to roughly 35–50 per cent of the world's civilian-owned guns.

The US has the highest gun ownership rate in the world - an average of 88 per 100 people. That puts it first in the world for gun ownership - and even the number two country, Yemen, has significantly fewer - 54.8 per 100 people.

But the US does not have the worst firearm murder rate - that prize belongs to Honduras, El Salvador and Jamaica. In fact, the US is number 28, with a rate of 2.97 per 100,000 people.

England and Wales has a firearm murder rate of 0.07 per 100,000 people.

omah thats great work well done. ignore lost alex questions, he doesnt provide any evidence, he doesnt answer questions and he ignores whatever data you show him. in short he is wasting your time, so dont fall for his nonsense