[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Ah right, I had only read the story in the OP.

I dont think wanting to dress as a boy means the child actually wants to be a boy at all. I hated dresses and such and I didnt turn out to be transgendered. On the other hand, my brother liked to dress up in my grandmothers clothes..he hasnt turned out to be trans either, or a crossdresser. Kids will be kids. I think its ridiculous to 'diagnose' a 6 year old as transgender, I really do. I want to know why the parents would even consider taking the child to a psychiatrist at that age to begin with tbh

..yeah, the problem I'm having understanding it all is that I can't see anything where they give any other reasons..other than that's how Coy feels happiest, as a girl..but they don't explain any reasons for that..and if the psychologist has confirmed it, then does that mean gender is psychological..it's confusing lol...

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah, the problem is with societies view of how girls and boys should act and what toys they should and shouldn't play with. Now, maybe I'm wrong and this is a genuine case but I do find it hard to believe at that young an age that a child would really know this. And I'm saying that as a person who's been that age and as a mother of two kids who were that age.

..yeah, obviously the focus is on the toilets but that isn't just a society thing, it's cultural as well, so there would still have to be male/female toilets..but another one for both genders as well...

Originally Posted by Livia

When my eldest niece was six, she wanted to be a unicorn.

...I think if Niamh's son is Spiderman, then your niece might be a unicorn...

[Livia]

Originally Posted by JH95

Was she permitted to use a unicorn-assigned toilet facility?

Oh yeah... licenced to poo in the street.

[Jake.]

[Jords]

Transgender at 6 is ridiculous.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Jords

Transgender at 6 is ridiculous.

I agree.

No child at 6 years old has the understanding to make a completely life changing decision like that IMO.

I also agree with the school that this child shouldn't be using the girls toilets.

[Niamh.]

In most of the primary schools here there is no separate bathrooms anyway, they don't come in until Secondary school, any of the primary schools I have seen and nursery schools, just have a couple of cubicles per class

[lostalex]

All bathrooms should be unisex. Problem solved.

Segregation is bad.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by lostalex

All bathrooms should be unisex. Problem solved.

No they shouldnt...

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

In most of the primary schools here there is no separate bathrooms anyway, they don't come in until Secondary school, any of the primary schools I have seen and nursery schools, just have a couple of cubicles per class

..that's interesting Niamh because all of the local primary schools here have seperate boy/girl...

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by lostalex

All bathrooms should be unisex. Problem solved.

Segregation is bad.

..but that doesn't allow for different cultures/beliefs though, so it's still segregation...

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..but that doesn't allow for different cultures/beliefs though, so it's still segregation...

Which cultures don't believe in unisex bathrooms? I've never heard of a religion that says "thou shall not crap where the oppossite gender craps". I've never heard of people having separate mens and women's bathrooms at home.

[Niamh.]

I don't see the need for separate bathrooms for younger kids, it's just cubicles like they'd have at home.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Which cultures don't believe in unisex bathrooms? I've never heard of a religion that says "thou shall not crap where the oppossite gender craps". I've never heard of people having separate mens and women's bathrooms at home.

..I don't think the Islam culture believes in 'free mixing' with men and women and especially if they are both alone...which could be the case in a public toilet...

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..I don't think the Islam culture believes in 'free mixing' with men and women and especially if they are both alone...which could be the case in a public toilet...

But they segregate everything. Much like catholic schools which have all boys or all girls schools... They probably wouldn't even allow a transgendered person to go to their schools in the first place.

But I don't agree with segregation in public schools. If it's a public school, there should be full integration.

[Tom4784]

Ridiculous, I'm guessing the parents are just hoping for a nice settlement.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by lostalex

All bathrooms should be unisex. Problem solved.

Segregation is bad.

I can imagine dirty old men and little boys and girls in public bathrooms .....

[lily.]

I'm led to believe that this child was a triplet. Two boys and a girl. I'm also led to believe that the girl has some learning difficulties, and was getting a lot of extra attention at home around the time this all kicked off.

If this is true, and I can't find a proper source yet, then is it possible that Coy seen the attention the girl was getting and wanted some of that for himself?

Coy is a triplet -- there was Coy, her brother, Max, and her sister, Lilly. Coy also has a younger sister, Auri, and an older sister, Dakota.
Source

Here is a source about the disabled sister Lilly..
clicky

[Omah]

Originally Posted by lostalex

But they segregate everything. Much like catholic schools which have all boys or all girls schools... They probably wouldn't even allow a transgendered person to go to their schools in the first place.

But I don't agree with segregation in public schools. If it's a public school, there should be full integration.

Does it happen in the "hood" in the USA ?

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Omah

I can imagine dirty old men and little boys and girls in public bathrooms .....

wait... why would there be a dirty old man in a unisex bathroom any more than there would be a dirty old man in segregated bathrooms? Who is this dirty old man and where did he come from?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Omah

I can imagine dirty old men and little boys and girls in public bathrooms .....

I don't know about anyone else but I wouldn't send a six year old to a public bathroom on their own and if a perv wants to stalk kids in public Toilets why do you think the fact that the bathrooms are segregated would stop him being perv?

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Omah

Does it happen in the "hood" in the USA ?

does what happen? unisex bathrooms? no. well i mean there are unisex bathrooms, but they are single bathrooms. Well i'm assuming. I've never been to a school "in the hood".

[lostalex]

This conversation makes me think of Ricki from My So-called Life. He was always hanging out in the girls bathroom and he never caused any problems.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by lily.

I'm led to believe that this child was a triplet. Two boys and a girl. I'm also led to believe that the girl has some learning difficulties, and was getting a lot of extra attention at home around the time this all kicked off.

If this is true, and I can't find a proper source yet, then is it possible that Coy seen the attention the girl was getting and wanted some of that for himself?

ahhh that's a very interesting theory actually, would make sense

[lily.]

Go check out the links I added to that post Niamh.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I don't know about anyone else but I wouldn't send a six year old to a public bathroom on their own and if a perv wants to stalk kids in public Toilets why do you think the fact that the bathrooms are segregated would stop him being perv?

Who mentioned six-year-olds ?

I replied to the assertion "All bathrooms should be unisex" - I assumed that the American euphemism "bathrooms" could be translated as "toilets" - I also assumed that "All" meant "All" which of course would include public bathrooms/toilets .....