[Ryan57]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

We don't need "alot more" than him though. If we get him We have a midfielder who will take no ****s and bully people. Would give Carrick's legs a break. Now a midfielder who can thread a killer ball to really relieve the pressure off Carrick and we are set imo.


As for the Glazers, I actually credit them. They could easily of gone for the big name to boost the brand, but they have trusted Fergie's word and have attempted to think long term. Highly doubt it's a case of wanting a yes man.

Fellaini wouldn't be allowed to use his arms like he does in Europe. As Drew said, he's a hot head. In Europe, you can barely do an 'effin thing nowadays.

Originally Posted by jackc1806

If you look at our midfield, the standout performer is Carrick. Excellent passes, reads the game well always looking for the man in a good position. I've always admired Carrick and I'm delighted this season he has been highlighted as a much needed player in our team. Kagawa has showed glimpses but I'm convinced his future is out wide- he has hardly set the league alight down the middle. Cleverley is one to keep an eye on, next season he must start to show his worth otherwise he could end up being similar to Gibson. Scholes is gone, not getting games and I can't see him here next season. Giggs can't perform week in week out because of his age but still produces great displays. Jones isn't really one for going forward, will be an excellent CB. Anderson needs to go, 6 seasons and he really hasn't done a lot. We've really missed Fletch, but it's unlikely he'll play again. When you look at this, what does Fellaini add that is so outstanding? He isn't the type of world class player we need at the moment. The display against Chelsea shows how weak our midfield is without Carrick.

I don't think we have many other performers anyway in midfield. Cleverley offers nothing really for me. This guy just passes it short. Did sweet FA against Chelsea and some thought he did well. If well is making 2-3 noteworthy passes each game then deary me.
Anderson is just fat, inconsistent and injury prone.

[Ryan57]

Originally Posted by wannashag

I'm not playing for Manchester United because even though i'm involved in football, I've never heard of David Moyes.

Have a word with yourself

Lmao! You think a player's decision isn't partly based on a manager then? Guess Zaha didn't join United partly due to Sir Alex then.

[jackc1806]

Originally Posted by Ryan57

Fellaini wouldn't be allowed to use his arms like he does in Europe. As Drew said, he's a hot head. In Europe, you can barely do an 'effin thing nowadays.



I don't think we have many other performers anyway in midfield. Cleverley offers nothing really for me. This guy just passes it short. Did sweet FA against Chelsea and some thought he did well. If well is making 2-3 noteworthy passes each game then deary me.
Anderson is just fat, inconsistent and injury prone.

Cleverley is 23, next season will be the real test. If he doesn't show his worth next season he is another name added to the list of deadwood and he'll end up at Stoke or something. I think his performance against Chelsea was a bit lacklustre, didn't really notice him. The whole team took their foot of the pedal and it showed. As I say, I'd give him one more season to prove himself. Agree about Anderson, hardly ever plays and when he does he doesn't do a lot.

[Ryan57]

Originally Posted by jackc1806

Cleverley is 23, next season will be the real test. If he doesn't show his worth next season he is another name added to the list of deadwood and he'll end up at Stoke or something. I think his performance against Chelsea was a bit lacklustre, didn't really notice him. The whole team took their foot of the pedal and it showed. As I say, I'd give him one more season to prove himself. Agree about Anderson, hardly ever plays and when he does he doesn't do a lot.

Squad player at best for me. Just does very little.

[jackc1806]

Originally Posted by Ryan57

Squad player at best for me. Just does very little.

He's no Scholes that's for certain. Who do you want us to sign in midfield, if not Fellaini?

[Ryan57]

Originally Posted by jackc1806

He's no Scholes that's for certain. Who do you want us to sign in midfield, if not Fellaini?

I'd like a ballwinner and a playmaker. The former I'm not so sure. Strootman has been heavily, heavily linked but I haven't seen a whole lot of him. Saw him a bit at the weekend and had some nice touches, set up a nice move but I obviously can't base it on that.
In terms of a playmaker. The dream is Ilkay Gundogan ()at Dortmund. Christian Eriksen is leaving Ajax this summer, in the last year of his deal so will be going cheaper than you'd expect for someone with his talent. Also a fan of Joao Moutinho. I'd be chuffed with any of those three, especially the first two.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Ryan57

Lmao! You think a player's decision isn't partly based on a manager then? Guess Zaha didn't join United partly due to Sir Alex then.

Not when it come's to a club like Manchester United no, I think most players in the World would jump at the opportunity to play for them.

[Ryan57]

Originally Posted by wannashag

Not when it come's to a club like Manchester United no, I think most players in the World would jump at the opportunity to play for them.

Disagree tbh. I think if Fergie had said, 'I'm having one more season' that would of effected who we'd sign this summer. I think managers play a huge roll.

Edit: I just remembered Jack, Sven Bender at Dortmund looks a good player.

[jackc1806]

Originally Posted by Ryan57

I'd like a ballwinner and a playmaker. The former I'm not so sure. Strootman has been heavily, heavily linked but I haven't seen a whole lot of him. Saw him a bit at the weekend and had some nice touches, set up a nice move but I obviously can't base it on that.
In terms of a playmaker. The dream is Ilkay Gundogan ()at Dortmund. Christian Eriksen is leaving Ajax this summer, in the last year of his deal so will be going cheaper than you'd expect for someone with his talent. Also a fan of Joao Moutinho. I'd be chuffed with any of those three, especially the first two.

Eriksen would bring goals from midfield, he would be an exiting player to have. Gungogan played well against Real and from what I've seen looks a very good player too, 22 years old as well - room for development. The board will be tempted to go for the cheaper option and Moyes doesn't seem the type to disagree with that.

[jackc1806]

Originally Posted by Ryan57

Disagree tbh. I think if Fergie had said, 'I'm having one more season' that would of effected who we'd sign this summer. I think managers play a huge roll.

Edit: I just remembered Jack, Sven Bender at Dortmund looks a good player.

I think signing from the Bundesliga is a very good idea, some great midfield players especially at Dortmund.

[Drew.]

Originally Posted by jackc1806

Cleverley is 23, next season will be the real test. If he doesn't show his worth next season he is another name added to the list of deadwood and he'll end up at Stoke or something. I think his performance against Chelsea was a bit lacklustre, didn't really notice him. The whole team took their foot of the pedal and it showed. As I say, I'd give him one more season to prove himself. Agree about Anderson, hardly ever plays and when he does he doesn't do a lot.

he admitted at the start of the season that this season he had to prove himsefl and this season was the real test

[Ryan57]

Originally Posted by jackc1806

Eriksen would bring goals from midfield, he would be an exiting player to have. Gungogan played well against Real and from what I've seen looks a very good player too, 22 years old as well - room for development. The board will be tempted to go for the cheaper option and Moyes doesn't seem the type to disagree with that.

Yeah, Gundogan was absolute class. Plays great every time I see him. 22 years of age, plays like someone who's been running midfields for ten years.

Eriksen would be a bargain. If we don't even go for him then smfh.

[Ryan57]

Originally Posted by Drew.

he admitted at the start of the season that this season he had to prove himsefl and this season was the real test

Not sure I saw that Drew. Even so, if he said that then ROFL if this is him improving. No idea what Woy sees in him. That said, Woy thinks Ashley Young is England's best winger.

[Drew.]

Originally Posted by Ryan57

Not sure I saw that Drew. Even so, if he said that then ROFL if this is him improving. No idea what Woy sees in him. That said, Woy thinks Ashley Young is England's best winger.

he has improved, but just not to the quality United fans want

[Ryan57]

Originally Posted by Drew.

he has improved, but just not to the quality United fans want

Really hasn't pushed on from the start of last season tbh. The guy is a five yard passing genius, however. Pass and move is nice to watch. And he always wants the ball it's just he gets it and passes it short all the time.

Just saw this also:

Chris Mendes (works for talkSPORT)

Cabbie in Manchester last week told me and @otheralexreid Fergie was about to retire on doctor's orders. No 'news' on replacement, sadly

[jackc1806]

Originally Posted by Drew.

he admitted at the start of the season that this season he had to prove himsefl and this season was the real test

I haven't seen that, if that's true he hasn't really lived up to expectations. If we get Gungodan or Eriksen he won't play anyway

[Drew.]

if i can remember properly i think it may have been in a commentary over one of the united games the commentator was saying Cleverley had said this was the season to prove himself

[jackc1806]

Originally Posted by Ryan57

Really hasn't pushed on from the start of last season tbh. The guy is a five yard passing genius, however. Pass and move is nice to watch. And he always wants the ball it's just he gets it and passes it short all the time.

Just saw this also:

Chris Mendes (works for talkSPORT)

Cabbie in Manchester last week told me and @otheralexreid Fergie was about to retire on doctor's orders. No 'news' on replacement, sadly

Hope it just a general age concern, hope he is in general good health. He deserves to enjoy a long retirement.

[Samuel.]

Originally Posted by Zee

I think David Moyes is precisely the kind of manager they need. Fergie's choice to home grow talent rather than squander millions on buying existing talent is a wise one, because it's more stable than throwing money at men who will only be tempted away by better money. José Mourinho would not keep up that kind of work, but I think David Moyes would. European experience comes with time, Moyes is a professional, he'd be up to the task. I hope that Moyes gets it.

SAF has done a lot of that too.

[Drew.]

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[Niamh.]

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[Brother Leon]

How long until he becomes Lord Alex Ferguson?

Make it happen ASAP.

Never.

[Ryan57]

Darn, was hoping the rumour of Gill in Madrid was to meet Jose and make him our new boss.


Yes, I was dreaming.

David 'effin Moyes it is then.

[GiRTh]

Why are the United fans so reluctant to accept Moyes? If you dont want him then maybe in a couple of years time when Wenger retires we can have him to replace the old codger.