[MatthewS]

Jemima did herself no favours with that rant to Jackie tonight...

[babybella1972]

Originally Posted by MilkMaid

death [deth] (noun) 1. the act of dying; the end of life; the total and permanent cessation of all the vital functions of an organism.

Dan is generally pompous and pious and Jemima isn't a racist BUT tonight he was right and she was really annoying!

I totally agree ... how to stretch the reality according to Jemima ... the conversation went round in a circle again and SUPRISE ... it was all about Jemima ....

[Jords]

I think youll find Jem claimed her daughter died not deathed

[fingers]

Originally Posted by Jords

I think youll find Jem claimed her daughter died not deathed

sorry, you lost me there!

[Bluerang1]

Originally Posted by Jords

I think youll find Jem claimed her daughter died not deathed

you win.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by MilkMaid

death [deth] (noun) 1. the act of dying; the end of life; the total and permanent cessation of all the vital functions of an organism.

Dan is generally pompous and pious and Jemima isn't a racist BUT tonight he was right and she was really annoying!

Spot on, the term Jemima should have used was her child arrested.yes the heart may have been stopped for a minute or more but you are not even classed as dead until over 3 minutes or more have passed.
It was I think anyway, an attempt to turn a traumatic event around to be all about her.

[cookiemonster]

it was. if it was that traumatic you don't bring it up in an argument to be used a trump card, sorry

[Jords]

Originally Posted by fingers

sorry, you lost me there!

Somebody's death is their final moment of living. If Jemima said "My daughter's death..." this would imply that she died and stayed dead as the definition suggests.

Because Jem said "My daughter died..." it implied she stopped living without knowing the time frame.

died, dy·ing (dng), dies
1. To cease living; become dead; expire.

Her daughter ceased living for just over a minute.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

You can die and be revived.

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

Yes you can.

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

Yes, you really can.

Wow, what a convincing case you make. I have no option but to believe you.

[Roy Mars III]

[Josy]

Originally Posted by MTVN

You can be named 'clinically dead' and then revived so Jemima wasn't enitrely wrong, but the way she talked about it gave the impression that her daughter had completely passed away

This.

Jemima was a complete twat tonight and only brought that incident into the conversation to get one up on Jacke saying Charlie had witnessed her grandmothers death and basically make herself the centre of attention again.

She's the type of person that would lie about anything to make her sound better than you, if you said you ate 2 sausages for breakfast you could pretty much guarantee Jemima would say she had ate 3.

[cookiemonster]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Wow, what a convincing case you make. I have no option but to believe you.

[fingers]

Originally Posted by Jords

Somebody's death is their final moment of living. If Jemima said "My daughter's death..." this would imply that she died and stayed dead as the definition suggests.

Because Jem said "My daughter died..." it implied she stopped living without knowing the time frame.



Her daughter ceased living for just over a minute.

What gobbledygook is that?

[Marsh.]

She exclaimed her daughter died and allowed everyone to presume that was the case, her daughter dropped dead in front of her and only later mentioned she revived her.

Even poor Gina had to clarify "So she's not dead?" after she'd been crying.

Every conversation she has, it's a constant oneupmanship with her. So self centred. Even when it came to someone mentioning they had a friend who surfs, she said "my friend surfs all the time... He's blind". She's full of bull****.

[Scream]

I don't know why people are making a joke out of it...it would be a horrible thing to go through. If Jemima wants to say her daughter died then she can say her daughter died...I think it's really insensitive of Dan to pull her up on that. Jemima is a nice woman, every argument she's had, it's been started by someone else. Good for her for sticking her for herself.

[Jords]

Originally Posted by fingers

What gobbledygook is that?

Only trying to help apologies if you dont understand

Originally Posted by 08marsh

She exclaimed her daughter died and allowed everyone to presume that was the case, her daughter dropped dead in front of her and only later mentioned she revived her.

Even poor Gina had to clarify "So she's not dead?" after she'd been crying.

Every conversation she has, it's a constant oneupmanship with her. So self centred.

That was exactly the problem, not the used of "died"

[cookiemonster]

scream, no one's denying it'd be traumatic to go through. but it's not then something you use to 'one-up' someone in an argument

[fingers]

Originally Posted by Jords

Only trying to help apologies if you dont understand



That was exactly the problem, not the used of "died"

Who invented the word "deathed"?

[Scream]

Originally Posted by cookiemonster

scream, no one's denying it'd be traumatic to go through. but it's not then something you use to 'one-up' someone in an argument

You can't prove that she was using that as an excuse to be 'one-up' on Jackie, nor can I claim she wasn't but I still don't think people should judge that and be laughing about it. Also, why the hell did Jackie even bring up Charlie's Nan dying in front of her to begin with? No relevance.

[Jords]

Originally Posted by fingers

Who invented the word "deathed"?

That is exactly my point. The OP is a definition of 'death', Jemima said 'died'.

Anyway this is pretty boring.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Scream

I don't know why people are making a joke out of it...it would be a horrible thing to go through. If Jemima wants to say her daughter died then she can say her daughter died...I think it's really insensitive of Dan to pull her up on that. Jemima is a nice woman, every argument she's had, it's been started by someone else. Good for her for sticking her for herself.

Of course it's horrible but did it have anything to do with the conversation? No.

They were discussing Charlie, nothing else. Nobody can say anything about themselves without Jemima wanting the limelight.

[Scream]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Of course it's horrible but did it have anything to do with the conversation? No.

They were discussing Charlie, nothing else. Nobody can say anything about themselves without Jemima wanting the limelight.

Charlie's Nan dying didn't have anything to do with the conversation? Just because the convo was about Charlie doesn't mean Jackie needed to bring up that. People just don't like Jemima, that's all it is.

[fingers]

Originally Posted by Jords

That is exactly my point. The OP is a definition of 'death', Jemima said 'died'.

Anyway this is pretty boring.

It is boring and obfuscation makes for a poor argument.

[Jords]

Originally Posted by fingers

It is boring and obfuscation makes for a poor argument.

So is nitpicking at HMs for their choices of wording.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Scream

Charlie's Nan dying didn't have anything to do with the conversation? Just because the convo was about Charlie doesn't mean Jackie needed to bring up that. People just don't like Jemima, that's all it is.

Jackie was explaining the circumstances leading up to Charlies problems, Jemima just jumped in with the news about her daughter so she could be the centre of attention.