[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by sampvt

The question is whether Dan is really gay or is he acting. Does he have a boyfriend or has he decided to play the game and do a Rylan or Brian just for the house. He certainly has the same type of gameplan as Brian and like Brian he is a bit of a flirt or babe magnet. You never know, like every good snooker player he may prefer the pink over the brown but might need to pot the brown to gain position.

Brian was a much funnier and likeable HM though imo

Originally Posted by HBB1508

Dan was my favourite on launch night but he has done himself no favours jumping into arguments and getting paranoid trying to out think BB - I find him quite irritating now and I don't like him going around sowing seeds in people's heads about who to nominate.

Yeah, I see that but at the same time I do find myself agreeing with him alot

[fruit_cake]

Hazel's used to getting what she wants, I think there's a little less interest from Dan.

[alex_front2]

Originally Posted by Scream

I'm just hoping that Dan tries to kiss her and she turns him down. Would make my life complete

I am really going to assume you are a straight bloke.

Love how so many straight guys can't accept that gay guys don't fancy good looking women. Dan could be in a room with the hottest 100 women you have selected all willing to shag him. He would turn them all down.

Don't get mad. Dan, like Jack and all gay guys I guess, lives in a world where the hottest women on the planet could pull down their knickers and invite him for some crazy hot sex and he'd say 'Sorry love, not tonight not ever Josephine, I just don't fancy you.'

Although I vaguely feel that Hazel would kiss Dan if she could. She would relish the power to convert him a bit. She says she has gay pals but they are probably less good looking, less 'sexy' and even camper than Dan. Dan's quite camp but there are way camper gay guys out there. He can have a masculine edge, being a father somehow does make him seem less gay even though gay men can be dads as he did it the hetero way and he's way more dominant and alpha than hetero men Daley, Callum and Sam. The way he interrogated tore into stammering wreck PR man Dexter was shocking. And as a fairly successful policeman (given his age he had a high position) he's encountered some nasty characters, rapists, gangland overlords, ruthless drug dealers, urban gang members and of course peadophiles and he's probably made them cry.

Most of the men in the house have at least acknowledged that Dan in the leader (Dexter complimenting Dan on HL show a few days ago, Callum saying Dan is the leader, Daley admitting he's not the leader in the house etc)

[alex_front2]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Brian was a much funnier and likeable HM though imo

Brian D is soo asexual. I can never image him to have a sex life. With Dan I can. Even before he switched to men. Dan could still pull more women than most straight men could too. Weirdly enough.

And to reiterate to all the straight men. Dan doesn't fancy Hazel. Accept it.

[alex_front2]

Originally Posted by HBB1508

It was the way she called Charlie over for a cuddle rather than her going over to cuddle Charlie, given how upset Charlie was - just my opinion

Yep agree. hazel was probably genuinely upset but decided to manipulate the situation to her own advantage. Just the day before the men in house were saying how sexy Charlie was. Can't have been good for model Hazel's ego. So she slagged CHarlie off to Dan and twins. Before seeming reasonable in making Charlie hug her and controlling the situation.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by alex_front2

Brian D is soo asexual. I can never image him to have a sex life. With Dan I can. Even before he switched to men. Dan could still pull more women than most straight men could too. Weirdly enough.

And to reiterate to all the straight men. Dan doesn't fancy Hazel. Accept it.

Awww leave my lovely Brian alone

[alex_front2]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Awww leave my lovely Brian alone

But it's sort of true with camp gay guys.

Dan is 5/10 camp. I could just about see Dan as a camp straight bloke if I was told he was hetero.
Brian is 10/10 camp and more gay gay gay but without a sex drive. He loves to swoon over men but not have sex.


You may not like Brian if he was less camp. I've notice women love gay men who are camp, asexual and non-threatening. The more a gay man appears to be 'straight-acting'* the more confusing it is for women. Imaging theres a guy you really fancy, good looking, sexy, masculine and assertive. He's into football and sport and typically hetero guy stuff rather than gossip and shopping. Then boom you find out he's gay, but he's still masculine to you and sexy. Confusing. He's not 'lovely' or cute, he's hot but you can't have him. Although Dan isn't too blokey he's more masculine than Jack and Brian and I think Hazel wouldn't be adverse to some kissing but it's never gonna happen,




*I know many gays find this term offensive but many gays use it

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by alex_front2

But it's sort of true with camp gay guys.

Dan is 5/10 camp. I could just about see Dan as a camp straight bloke if I was told he was hetero.
Brian is 10/10 camp and more gay gay gay but without a sex drive. He loves to swoon over men but not have sex.


You may not like Brian if he was less camp. I've notice women love gay men who are camp, asexual and non-threatening. The more a gay man appears to be 'straight-acting'* the more confusing it is for women. Imaging theres a guy you really fancy, good looking, sexy, masculine and assertive. He's into football and sport and typically hetero guy stuff rather than gossip and shopping. Then boom you find out he's gay, but he's still masculine to you and sexy. Confusing. He's not 'lovely' or cute, he's hot but you can't have him. Although Dan isn't too blokey he's more masculine than Jack and Brian and I think Hazel wouldn't be adverse to some kissing but it's never gonna happen,




*I know many gays find this term offensive but many gays use it

I don't believe that. There was plenty of very camp gay guys in there all through the years that I didn't like at all. The main thing I loved about Brian in BB2 was his sense of humour, alot of times I would actually be crying with laughter while watching him. My liking him as a HM had nothing to do with his sexual preference

[alex_front2]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I don't believe that. There was plenty of very camp gay guys in there all through the years that I didn't like at all. The main thing I loved about Brian in BB2 was his sense of humour, alot of times I would actually be crying with laughter while watching him. My liking him as a HM had nothing to do with his sexual preference

But what if a gay male HM was not camp or effeminate but a really blokey guy eg BB5 Victor or BB12 Jay McKray?

Brian's humour was bound up in the fact he was gay. Most camp and effeminate blokes are gay, not all but I suspect 99% are. Brian Dowling was never going to be heterosexual!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by alex_front2

But what if a gay male HM was not camp or effeminate but a really blokey guy eg BB5 Victor or BB12 Jay McKray?

Brian's humour was bound up in the fact he was gay. Most camp and effeminate blokes are gay, not all but I suspect 99% are. Brian Dowling was never going to be heterosexual!

What about it? Victor was one of my favourite HMs of all time as well, i don't see what difference it would have made if he liked men?

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by HBB1508

I thought her behaviour towards Charlie after the tiff was quite manipulative and showed that she could be that way inclined, but is sitting back and letting Dan make himself look bad for now.

What Charlie said really hurt Hazel. Nobody wants to be asked if ur boyfriend committed suicide because you broke up with him. I like Charlie and I know she didnt mean it but I thought Hazel handled it well compared to alot of housemates who would have started a row and berrated Charlie for what she said. Hazel let some time elapse spoke to her closest friends there about how she felt but in no way said that Charlie was a bitch or anything then she asked for a hug. If you notice on the highlights shows since then Hazel and Charlie are together alot

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by sampvt

The question is whether Dan is really gay or is he acting. Does he have a boyfriend or has he decided to play the game and do a Rylan or Brian just for the house. He certainly has the same type of gameplan as Brian and like Brian he is a bit of a flirt or babe magnet. You never know, like every good snooker player he may prefer the pink over the brown but might need to pot the brown to gain position.

I have to say the kind of looks he has been giving Hazel recently make me struggle to accept he's Gay. he looks at her longingly and lustfully a look he gives no one else in the house. He has not even tried to flirt with any of the other men even for fun (I know he is the only gay in the villiage , sorry House)

Perhaps he is playing the biggest game of all trying to get the gay vote, perhaps BB should put another overtly gay person into the house, shake it up a bit ??

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

I have to say the kind of looks he has been giving Hazel recently make me struggle to accept he's Gay. he looks at her longingly and lustfully a look he gives no one else in the house. He has not even tried to flirt with any of the other men even for fun (I know he is the only gay in the villiage , sorry House)

Perhaps he is playing the biggest game of all trying to get the gay vote, perhaps BB should put another overtly gay person into the house, shake it up a bit ??

Maybe he's bisexual ?

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Maybe he's bisexual ?

Maybe he's Trisexual.......!!!!

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Maybe he's Trisexual.......!!!!

Could be! Some people are!

[Marcus.]

we never know

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by alex_front2

Yep agree. hazel was probably genuinely upset but decided to manipulate the situation to her own advantage. Just the day before the men in house were saying how sexy Charlie was. Can't have been good for model Hazel's ego. So she slagged CHarlie off to Dan and twins. Before seeming reasonable in making Charlie hug her and controlling the situation.

I really dont see how you could say that. Hazel has no reason to be jealous of Charlie. She has no sexual interest in any of the guys and just has a good friendship with Dan. Hazel and Charlie have become quite close. They are both stunning girls with a different look and I see nothing whatsover to indicate that one would be jealous of the other.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by rionablue

I really dont see how you could say that. Hazel has no reason to be jealous of Charlie. She has no sexual interest in any of the guys and just has a good friendship with Dan. Hazel and Charlie have become quite close. They are both stunning girls with a different look and I see nothing whatsover to indicate that one would be jealous of the other.

Yeah, I agree. It seems it's the standard reason used though for anytime two good looking girls have some sort of friction or don't get on

[alex_front2]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

I have to say the kind of looks he has been giving Hazel recently make me struggle to accept he's Gay. he looks at her longingly and lustfully a look he gives no one else in the house. He has not even tried to flirt with any of the other men even for fun (I know he is the only gay in the villiage , sorry House)

Perhaps he is playing the biggest game of all trying to get the gay vote, perhaps BB should put another overtly gay person into the house, shake it up a bit ??

Jack is gay.

No, he looks at Hazel like a sister. He does not fancy her. If anything it's her looking at him.

[alex_front2]

Originally Posted by rionablue

I really dont see how you could say that. Hazel has no reason to be jealous of Charlie. She has no sexual interest in any of the guys and just has a good friendship with Dan. Hazel and Charlie have become quite close. They are both stunning girls with a different look and I see nothing whatsover to indicate that one would be jealous of the other.

Hazel doesn't fancy the men (maybe Dan) but she doesn't like the fact that they give Charlie attention.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by alex_front2

Hazel doesn't fancy the men (maybe Dan) but she doesn't like the fact that they give Charlie attention.

You jumped to that conclusion because she's a good looking girl? Only an insecure person would be jealous of someone for that reason and one thing hazel definitely does not come across as, is insecure

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by alex_front2

Jack is gay.

No, he looks at Hazel like a sister. He does not fancy her. If anything it's her looking at him.

Jack is Gay ??........ Is Joe Gay too

I never knew this, they dont look particularly Gay, I mean with those hips..C'mon Pleeeeseee !!!!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Jack is Gay ??........ Is Joe Gay too

I never knew this, they dont look particularly Gay, I mean with those hips..C'mon Pleeeeseee !!!!

No only one of them is gay

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

No only one of them is gay

Really.......that sounds a bit weird !!!!

[alex_front2]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

You jumped to that conclusion because she's a good looking girl? Only an insecure person would be jealous of someone for that reason and one thing hazel definitely does not come across as, is insecure

She's aware that after 13 series being jealous and insecure female is not a good trait with (female viewers)