[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

Hazel only had to smile at Daley and he would get an erection ( without drink ) Thats how much he was in control of the situation. It's his own fault 100% yet tonights BBOTS show he showed what a real snake he is by not apologising directly to Hazel for pinning her down by the throat and saying he would nut her. THE VICTIM.

[mr rochester]

So...HE requested to go on the prog. and they capitulated - despite the fact they made him leave through the back door (as he should). Are we now to expect that thug reading the news, giving us weather forecasts or taking a prominent role on world politics progs simply because he has requested to appear? He should never have been given that platform. Apart from making his necessary apology for offending women (so men don't get offended by his behaviour obviously) he actually said nothing and was his usual gibbering self. Explaining things without giving an actual explanation (hinting at his past with no supporting evidence), advising us all he is a loner and can't sit at a dinner table...Admitting he had hurt his girlfriend but wasn't prepared to beg to get her back...Rah...rah...rah. His GF is there supporting him after he behaves like that to her and disgracing himself spectacularly...Emma has done herself no favours by carrying out this interview. His mawkish self pity should not have been shown. He should not have been on the prog. end of..

[smudgie]

The whole interview was a Load of tosh.
In fact the whole show was.
Emma was a disgrace, starting with her 50/50 garbage
He did not apologize t o Hazel,in fact he showed no remorse.
Even his apology to any women who may have been offended was totally Hollow the minute he used the IF word.
I reckon he does not realise that he offended decent men as well.


Emma saying it takes two to tango was the last straw.

[CaudleHalbard]

Originally Posted by reece(:

Cannot believe that Katie is standing by him after it all

Lol! I would have been more surprised if she hadn't. For some people to be alone is 100 times worse than being with an arsewipe!

[vicky]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

The BOTS audience and panel - and indeed Emma - seemed to have very little sympathy for Hazel.

"It takes two" was the general sentiment.

It may take two to flirt but there was only one responsible for the threatening behaviour so that was an inappropriate thing for emma to say.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

all I want to know is, if daley had you round the throat how would you feel?

What on earth does that have to do with anything I have posted in this thread and also can't you debate a topic without getting personal?

Let me make this clear.

The OP of this thread states that Daley layed all the blame on Hazel during his interview and that isn't true which is what I posted in reply.

So why are you bringing up the strangling thing?

I have posted my opinion in plenty of threads about the assault.

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Excuse me but isn't that "some mens" problem for being weak willed arseholes? And frankly I thinking it's pretty insulting to men to say they're that stupid and lack that much self control

This is spot on. Men do what they do because they WANT to, and what we do is ALWAYS our responsibility because the idea pops up in our brains, no-one else's.

[smeagol]

Originally Posted by smudgie

The whole interview was a Load of tosh.
In fact the whole show was.
Emma was a disgrace, starting with her 50/50 garbage
He did not apologize t o Hazel,in fact he showed no remorse.
Even his apology to any women who may have been offended was totally Hollow the minute he used the IF word.
I reckon he does not realise that he offended decent men as well.


Emma saying it takes two to tango was the last straw.

if i had a hat id tip it lol well said

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Lol! I would have been more surprised if she hadn't. For some people to be alone is 100 times worse than being with an arsewipe!

Reminds me of Rihanna and Chris Brown !

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by smudgie

The whole interview was a Load of tosh.
In fact the whole show was.
Emma was a disgrace, starting with her 50/50 garbage
He did not apologize t o Hazel,in fact he showed no remorse.
Even his apology to any women who may have been offended was totally Hollow the minute he used the IF word.
I reckon he does not realise that he offended decent men as well.


Emma saying it takes two to tango was the last straw.

He can apologise to women all over the UK on national tv IF he offended them but NOT to the woman he pinned down by the throat wanting to nut. Sick, very very sick.

[Kulafey]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

What a load of sexist bollox, Hazel is to blame because she's attractive and flirted with him and the poor man couldn't cope with that? Give me a ****ing break. He has no self control, that's 100% his fault, no one elses

absolutely. people are making a moral judgement on Hazel but not daley, yet Daley is the only one who was cheating, It seems that's ok though, because he can't help himself, what with being a man and all - that's obviously why rapists get away with it, cos these attractive single women shouldn't be talking or smiling or being so goddamn sexy - they're just asking for it - aren't they? And worse they are using that sexist moral judgement to justify a large powerful man grabbing a woman around the throat, pinning her to the bed and threatening to head butt her. Its a ******ing disgrace. And Emma Willis is a ******ing disgrace too for suggesting that Hazel must take half the blame.

[CaudleHalbard]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

He can apologise to women all over the UK on national tv IF he offended them but NOT to the woman he pinned down by the throat wanting to nut. Sick, very very sick.

See the thread about the Daily Star article.

Daley is presenting himself as the wronged man and Hazel as evil.

[Northern Monkey]

I think they had to give him an interview as they always say that they have to give a person the right to reply.They interviewed Katie and will ask Hazel about it when she goes,They had no option but to give him his say.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Josy

What on earth does that have to do with anything I have posted in this thread and also can't you debate a topic without getting personal?

Let me make this clear.

The OP of this thread states that Daley layed all the blame on Hazel during his interview and that isn't true which is what I posted in reply.

So why are you bringing up the strangling thing?

I have posted my opinion in plenty of threads about the assault.

no, he did blame it all on hazel the violence he blamed on the drink, which a lot of wife beaters do!
calm down with the personal stuff!, I wanted to know who you think is to blame!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Speedster

This is spot on. Men do what they do because they WANT to, and what we do is ALWAYS our responsibility because the idea pops up in our brains, no-one else's.

Exactly. I mean is he really trying to make out that he was that dim and that clueless about what acceptable behaviour while you're in a relationship is that he needs to rely on other peoples opinions when he's away from his g/f? A "g/f" who he incidentally forgot he was actually still going out with in the last week

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by vicky

It may take two to flirt but there was only one responsible for the threatening behaviour so that was an inappropriate thing for emma to say.

Well hello there Vicky

You are the reason I have to have a fullstop on the end of my forum name

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kulafey

absolutely. people are making a moral judgement on Hazel but not daley, yet Daley is the only one who was cheating, It seems that's ok though, because he can't help himself, what with being a man and all - that's obviously why rapists get away with it, cos these attractive single women shouldn't be talking or smiling or being so goddamn sexy - they're just asking for it - aren't they? And worse they are using that sexist moral judgement to justify a large powerful man grabbing a woman around the throat, pinning her to the bed and threatening to head butt her. Its a ******ing disgrace. And Emma Willis is a ******ing disgrace too for suggesting that Hazel must take half the blame.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

no he did blame it all on hazel the violence he blamed on the drink, which a lot of wife beaters do!
calm down with the personal stuff!, I wanted to know who you think is to blame!

I disagree.

Read my posts in the numerous other threads about the asault if you want to know my opinion, this thread is about tonight's interview.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Well hello there Vicky

You are the reason I have to have a fullstop on the end of my forum name

Now to find NIAMH

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Josy

I disagree.

Read my posts in the numerous other threads about the asault if you want to know my opinion, this thread is about tonight's interview.

jesus your on one!, forget I asked!

[Kulafey]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

He absolutely did not, he apologised to the viewers if it offended anyone and he said he didn't want to say anything about Hazel and that "he'll let people make up their own minds" which to me meant he was angry with her. He then said that he'd asked Hazel if he was crossing a line (in regards to their flirting not the incident) and he said that Hazel told him he wasn't (trying to make out it was her fault because she told him it was fine) eventhough we'd all heard him claim in there that he didn't actually have a g/f at all so why is he now saying that he wanted to know about crossing lines?....

Yes, this was what I was referring to it my original post about him blaming Hazel.

[Marsh.]

The basis of it is if he came on and said his intentions weren't to hurt anyone and he accepts he went too far then fair enough.

But I can't accept the blame game where he listed every external factor he could (food, drink, the room, the house, Hazel etc) for what he did.

Regardless of the assault though I detest the insinuation that Hazel takes ANY blame for his cheating. That's not 50/50, that's 100% on him that HE cheated.

Going with someone else's boyfriend is 100% on Hazel, but the decision by Daley himself to treat his girlfriend the way he did by instigating a relationship with her is all on him.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

The basis of it is if he came on and said his intentions weren't to hurt anyone and he accepts he went too far then fair enough.

But I can't accept the blame game where he listed every external factor he could (food, drink, the room, the house, Hazel etc) for what he did.

Regardless of the assault though I detest the insinuation that Hazel takes ANY blame for his cheating. That's not 50/50, that's 100% on him that HE cheated.

Going with someone else's boyfriend is 100% on Hazel, but the decision by Daley himself to treat his girlfriend the way he did by instigating a relationship with her is all on him.

Exactly.

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by Kulafey

So Daley is more or less saying that Hazel was asking for it? And shame on Emma for agreeing. No matter what Hazel has done (and I'm no fan of hers) no woman deserves to be grabbed round the throat, pinned to the bed and threatened with violence. And now he's full of BS about how "the house" made him cheat on his Gf.
He's a disgrace and they shouldn't give such a misogynistic bully air time.

I absolutely agree. He said he was sorry if what happened offended WOMEN out there. Not a **** about Hazel.
Hazel on tonights highlights show: I hope Daley will be ok. He's not a bad person and I hope he will be ok outside the house
Daley on BBBOTS : I will let the people make up their own mind about Hazel. I am sorry if what I did offended women as I would never hurt a woman like that!!!!
**** off Daley. And shame on Katie for sticking by him or accompanying him tonight. She made it very clear the night she was on that she was going to leave and start again with her child. Is she condoning his behaviour? Because no way would I stand by someone who acted in this way

[joeysteele]

I have been pretty irritated at the way Hazel was always seeking him out,no matter where he was and really doing a fair bit more than just flirting with him.
She sadly, in my view, gave the indication that if he wanted her, he could have her,at certain points.
She did even once say to him she was really frustrated in the house.

From his angle,I have been more irritated at his lack of full respect and consideration for his girlfriend outside, Daley was the person in a relationship and he should have said from the start to Hazel that he was a no go area, if that is how he actually at that time saw himself to be.

I also was irritated at BB too, for when they did the pairings to ever set out to manipulate the situation and set them up as a pair for the safe house and to be totally alone at times.

From there though, Daley's behaviour on the night in question was way out of order, it is true Hazel began the 'playfighting' but it was Daley who turned really sinister and nasty and yes, threatening.
Dan for instance got a warning for just saying he would like to punch Callum to another housemate.
Daley actually took hold of Hazel and threatened her directly,with his hands on her, not once but at least twice, 'I will finish you' and 'nut you' being the offensive terminology used by him.
That is where he was totally wrong and Hazel being the clear victim in that.

In his interview with Emma tonight, he did harp on about the drink a bit but all he had to do was not drink. It is that simple.
If he wasn't a regular drinker then he already had that control so just leave it be.
My guess is Emma's interview will have had guidelines from BB as to it but I did think he got a very easy ride on bbbots.

This is in part, the very reason women who get abused or attacked, do not always come forward as to it,because some think they were likely asking for it or provoked it.
No way did Daley need to get that angry or threatening over a bed cover,it is very worrying that he could in fact.

It is right he is out the house now, maybe with all his emotional problems he should naever have been in it.
While it certainly can be said that they were both 50/50 to blame for the relationship building up in the first place, it is Daley who is 100% to blame for the rather ugly scenes we saw last night, that was down to him and him alone in my view.

I feel Hazel got a bit of a raw deal from Emma and the others on bbbots tonight.
Disappointing interview really for me.