[anne666]

Originally Posted by Indy

No, some people really are that stupid, and they aren't just here.

Agree
I must say that I have been perturbed by this type of comment and more than a bit disappointed in the human race.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

I do agree that Hazel's account to Dan was the truth.

Was it the the WHOLE truth? Not do sure about that!

Again, though we obviously only got a couple of minutes of the conversation, what they did show of it was all truth

[fingers]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

I do agree that Hazel's account to Dan was the truth.

Was it the the WHOLE truth? Not so sure about that!

It may have been the truth as she saw it, not the same thing!

[anne666]

[QUOTE=Miranda123;6178479]The only reason she isnt 'milking it' is because she knows most of it was her fault and she doesnt want the others to know that so she 'doesnt want to talk about it" ha ha

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Round and round we go then. Disagree entirely.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by fingers

It may have been the truth as she saw it, not the same thing!

What part wasn't truthful? and obviously she can only tell it from her point of view but to me it was pretty much exactly what happened

[anne666]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

What part wasn't truthful? and obviously she can only tell it from her point of view but to me it was pretty much exactly what happened

Yes I dont understand what she was supposed to be lying about?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I don't agree with her behaviour.

I think the fact she got with someones boyfriend is disgusting but unlike others I can see the situation isn't just black and white (excuse the pun).

Was she wrong to get with Daley?: YES

Did she deserve to get a hand around her throat and threatened with a head butt?: NO.

Simple as that.

I would be embaressed if I was in her situation and the last thing I would want to do is discuss it with the whole house.

Shes trying not to make a big deal out of it and if she had told the whole house Daley would have had a lot more flack on the outside from the other housemates crucifying his behaviour.

Instead we have just seen her confide in Dan, admit she played a role in the part, disagreed with him being kicked out and handled it a lot better than I thought.

Personally I think you're all just pissed off because you wanted to see the drama of the housemates reactions.

[fingers]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

What part wasn't truthful? and obviously she can only tell it from her point of view but to me it was pretty much exactly what happened

You don't have to articulate something to be untruthful, just leave out a few salient points.

[chuff me dizzy]

She should have told them the full story IMO ,I just hope she doesnt now get the pity vote by the housemates and public

[Indy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Again, though we obviously only got a couple of minutes of the conversation, what they did show of it was all truth

Not to mention, the whole "she lied" hysteria started based on a clip before the HL. Then on HL they showed 2 which expanded on what was seen the first time, including her saying "I'm not sure I'm allowed to say anything" and Dan saying, "say it and if you can't, they'll call you in on it". After that we see her called in and told she can tell or not tell whoever she wants.

BB did her a disservice by making that announcement without first telling her in the DR. They blindsided her, knowing the immediate reaction would be everyone to ask her what happened.

[CaudleHalbard]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Again, though we obviously only got a couple of minutes of the conversation, what they did show of it was all truth

Agreed but she was quite detailed about what he did to her. Much less detailed about her own part in the proceedings.

So it can be truthful without being the whole truth.

Which is why you have to swear to tell the whole truth in court. Not just bits of the truth.

[anne666]

Originally Posted by fingers

You don't have to articulate something to be untruthful, just leave out a few salient points.

Which points?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

I don't agree with her behaviour.

I think the fact she got with someones boyfriend is disgusting but unlike others I can see the situation isn't just black and white (excuse the pun).

Was she wrong to get with Daley?: YES

Did she deserve to get a hand around her throat and threatened with a head butt?: NO.

Simple as that.

I would be embaressed if I was in her situation and the last thing I would want to do is discuss it with the whole house.

Shes trying not to make a big deal out of it and if she had told the whole house Daley would have had a lot more flack on the outside from the other housemates crucifying his behaviour.

Instead we have just seen her confide in Dan, admit she played a role in the part, disagreed with him being kicked out and handled it a lot better than I thought.

Personally I think you're all just pissed off because you wanted to see the drama of the housemates reactions.

Exactly. I think no matter what way Hazel handled it, people who don't like her would find something wrong with.

[fingers]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

She should have told them the full story IMO ,I just hope she doesnt now get the pity vote by the housemates and public

At the moment she is getting no pity and a lot of condemnation from the public, not necessarily the voting public, but who can tell?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by fingers

You don't have to articulate something to be untruthful, just leave out a few salient points.

Like what though? You're making all these cryptic implications but you've not actually given a single example of what you're talking about

[anne666]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Exactly. I think no matter what way Hazel handled it, people who don't like her would find something wrong with.

I dont like her but I am capable of objectivity and have some emotional intellect. Some of the comments are so very subjective and verge on blinkered hysteria as a result

[fingers]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Like what though? You're making all these cryptic implications but you've not actually given a single example of what you're talking about

I watched the same video that you did, but I viewed as an unbiased observer, not like all the people who see only what they want to see.

EDIT: BTW I have given examples, but you either don't want them or interpret them in your own way.

[anne666]

Originally Posted by fingers

I watched the same video that you did, but I viewed as an unbiased observer, not like all the people who see only what they want to see.

Oh come on unbiased ??? That is not what I have seen from you.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by anne666

I dont like her but I am capable of objectivity and have some emotional intellect. Some of the comments are so very subjective and verge on blinkered hysteria as a result

Yeah that's true enough, I'll rephrase that to "alot" of people who dislike her

Originally Posted by fingers

I watched the same video that you did, but I viewed as an unbiased observer, not like all the people who see only what they want to see.

Ok but you're still side stepping and not giving an example.

[Indy]

Originally Posted by fingers

I watched the same video that you did, but I viewed as an unbiased observer, not like all the people who see only what they want to see.

So it's everyone else that's biased? The people who can't stand her for flirting with a taken man and the people who loved her for her rack, but agree that he crossed the line - they're all biased in the exact same way?

You'd be a ton of laughs at a women's shelter. Tell me every gory detail of what he did to you, or you're a liar and I'm booting you from your room.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by fingers

I watched the same video that you did, but I viewed as an unbiased observer, not like all the people who see only what they want to see.

EDIT: BTW I have given examples, but you either don't want them or interpret them in your own way.

Where?

[fingers]

Originally Posted by anne666

Oh come on unbiased ??? That is not what I have seen from you.

what is your interpretation of unbiased?

[Miranda123]

[QUOTE=anne666;6178488]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

The only reason she isnt 'milking it' is because she knows most of it was her fault and she doesnt want the others to know that so she 'doesnt want to talk about it" ha ha

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Round and round we go then. Disagree entirely.

Friday is just not gonna be your night then love, sorry lolol

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Agreed but she was quite detailed about what he did to her. Much less detailed about her own part in the proceedings.

So it can be truthful without being the whole truth.

Which is why you have to swear to tell the whole truth in court. Not just bits of the truth.

Well, she pulled his pants down, she told him that, there's not too much detail you can add to that really and again, we only just got a snippet of that conversation

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by Indy

So it's everyone else that's biased? The people who can't stand her for flirting with a taken man and the people who loved her for her rack, but agree that he crossed the line - they're all biased in the exact same way?

You'd be a ton of laughs at a women's shelter. Tell me every gory detail of what he did to you, or you're a liar and I'm booting you from your room.

Oh now she's a battered woman hahahahaha

Maybe BB should turn the SF into a Battered Womens Shelter for her, poor dear lolololol

CANT WAIT TO SEE EMMA DESTROY HER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!