[CaudleHalbard]

Looks to me as if Hazel is the one feeling guilty and that Daley feels more annoyed than guilty.

[anne666]

Victims of abuse usually feel guilty.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by kefln

You might have missed daleys horror at her advances...no sorry...the fact that he was giving as much as he was getting - despite having a girlfriend with kids watching.

You also might have missed the idea that hugs and leg wraps dont normally lead to strangle holds and headbutts...least in most peoples world....

But its ok, he was hungry, and had a little alcohol, so she deserved it

I didn't say he wasn't cant stand the guy,he's a knob,I was merely asking of peoples interpretations of 'flirting' Jeez,people need to get out the sun!

[anne666]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Looks to me as if Hazel is the one feeling guilty and that Daley feels more annoyed than guilty.

Daley feels more annoyed, full stop.

[CaudleHalbard]

Originally Posted by anne666

Victims of abuse usually feel guilty.

True, but in this instance some guilt is wholly justified as she tormented the crocodile!

Daley seems to be genuinely aggrieved, however.

[kefln]

Originally Posted by fingers

Whatever.

Considered retort. Well phrased. With a start, middle and end.

Given the matter a lot of thought before putting all the blame on hazel then?

[fingers]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Looks to me as if Hazel is the one feeling guilty and that Daley feels more annoyed than guilty.

She has been feeling, and looking, guilty since Daley got booted,

She knows what was recorded, but she doesn't know that it was on live feed, they all still think that LF is from 7 to 9. She'd be crapping in her pants (if she had any on) if she thought that the public had seen what happened.

[fingers]

Originally Posted by kefln

Considered retort. Well phrased. With a start, middle and end.

Given the matter a lot of thought before putting all the blame on hazel then?

Whatever.

[CaudleHalbard]

Originally Posted by fingers

Whatever.

Lol!

[anne666]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

True, but in this instance some guilt is wholly justified as she tormented the crocodile!

Daley seems to be genuinely aggrieved, however.

Of course he does. He didn't get away with his vile behaviour. The first sentence I have to ignore for the sake of my blood pressure.OLD GROUND

[kefln]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Looks to me as if Hazel is the one feeling guilty and that Daley feels more annoyed than guilty.

And what does that say?

From her perspective her friend has been kicked out of the house for something that she was involved in. Its plain to see that she had the hots for the guy. Her comments yesterday Included being worried that this incident might effect his career. That the press might haunt him.

What she doesntoknow is that he has completely sold her down the river. As has BOTS. As has BB itself.

Pin the blame on her, higher ratings, more votes. Pin it on him, hes out, no more to be made off it

[anne666]

Originally Posted by fingers

She has been feeling, and looking, guilty since Daley got booted,

She knows what was recorded, but she doesn't know that it was on live feed, they all still think that LF is from 7 to 9. She'd be crapping in her pants (if she had any on) if she thought that the public had seen what happened.

It was only what BB wanted until caveman swung into action.

[fingers]

Originally Posted by anne666

It was only what BB wanted until caveman swung into action.

Can't disagree with that except "caveman" is emotive and unnecessary>

[kefln]

Originally Posted by fingers

Whatever.

Thats all you got?

There is no better way to admit that you have no reply. Keep the "whatevers" up, as each one confirms you have nothing....

[CaudleHalbard]

Well judging by Twitter etc, the public seem to have concluded that both Hazel and Daley share the responsibility except it's NOT 50/50..........

........... more like 90% Hazel's fault!

She will be hard put to overcome that. Eviction next week methinks.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Well judging by Twitter etc, the public seem to have concluded that both Hazel and Daley share the responsibility except it's NOT 50/50..........

........... more like 90% Hazel's fault!

She will be hard put to overcome that. Eviction next week methinks.

If the public had watched the whole live feed it would be more like 80/20 imo.

I just cant get over how bad the whole situation was edited.

[bez87]

Wow if them figure's are right, i actually have no respect for society. How does a girl get blamed when he has been trying to control her for the passed 2days and then demands she comes in to go to sleep, to the point he grabs her neck and threatens to nut her. that it is down to her. crazy.

On Topic tho, why would Hazel tell everybody, i'm pretty sure if that was me i wouldn't one everyone to know what happened, and the whole guilty thing :S hazel didn't get him kicked out, BB did that off their own back, thats why they allow daley to go back and spend alot of the day in the garden because they had to way it up.

[anne666]

Originally Posted by fingers

Can't disagree with that except "caveman" is emotive and unnecessary>

True though IMO. The world has moved on since his kind of caveman behaviour was acceptable. Perhaps he is really EXTREMELY old then ??She needs some lessons in self respect then maybe she will begin to respect others. Hopefully before this happens with no-one to stop the carnage she may encounter.

[anne666]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Well judging by Twitter etc, the public seem to have concluded that both Hazel and Daley share the responsibility except it's NOT 50/50..........

........... more like 90% Hazel's fault!

She will be hard put to overcome that. Eviction next week methinks.

Yes I can believe that. Sad indictment on today's society. AND I still disagree with you

[anne666]

Originally Posted by bez87

Wow if them figure's are right, i actually have no respect for society. How does a girl get blamed when he has been trying to control her for the passed 2days and then demands she comes in to go to sleep, to the point he grabs her neck and threatens to nut her. that it is down to her. crazy.

On Topic tho, why would Hazel tell everybody, i'm pretty sure if that was me i wouldn't one everyone to know what happened, and the whole guilty thing :S hazel didn't get him kicked out, BB did that off their own back, thats why they allow daley to go back and spend alot of the day in the garden because they had to way it up.

They also had to consult lawyers to cover their own backs for NOT stepping in sooner I would think.

[fingers]

Originally Posted by kefln

Thats all you got?

There is no better way to admit that you have no reply. Keep the "whatevers" up, as each one confirms you have nothing....

Whatever

[bez87]

Originally Posted by anne666

They also had to consult lawyers to cover their own backs for NOT stepping in sooner I would think.

yea i'm guessing that as well, i mean the reality is, if he can do that with a bit of drink in him, with a girl he has known for only 2 seconds, what could of happened next, i guess they couldn't take that chance.

Same goes for the bad interview, Emma would of been briefed before hand on what she can ask and what she can't and thats probably the reason why the whole him having a gf thing didn't get pushed but what a total disgrace that they interviewed her, for rating and making daley look so bad but then turn round a week later to daley and go o well we met your girlfriend last week, and we know she is here today with you :S i mean come on.

[anne666]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

If the public had watched the whole live feed it would be more like 80/20 imo.

I just cant get over how bad the whole situation was edited.

The whole point of the edit was IMO to dilute it to protect themselves.The majority of viewers watch the evening show. The video of the live feed was removed to stop people seeing the whole thing.Watching the show it looked as if she had walked in and woken him up. He was lying there raging nowhere near asleep.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by anne666

The whole point of the edit was IMO to dilute it to protect themselves.The majority of viewers watch the evening show. The video of the live feed was removed to stop people seeing the whole thing.Watching the show it looked as if she had walked in and woken him up. He was lying there raging nowhere near asleep.

Yep, I was posting on the FB page earlier and none of those people seemed to know what i was talking about when I mentioned that he'd been the one to start it all by demanding she go to bed and lying to her and swearing on his kids life that BB told him she had to go to bed. It was all that poor Daley wanted to sleep but Hazel wouldn't let him

[RodHull]

Originally Posted by bez87

On Topic tho, why would Hazel tell everybody, i'm pretty sure if that was me i wouldn't one everyone to know what happened, and the whole guilty thing :S hazel didn't get him kicked out, BB did that off their own back, thats why they allow daley to go back and spend alot of the day in the garden because they had to way it up.

When BB announced daley was gone you could see Dan instantly knew something was up cause he could see in Hazels eyes something had happened but that clearly she didnt want to discuss it in public like that.

I think considering I cant stand her that she has handled herself really well since it happened. She knows she went to far as well, she knows she has some responsibility, shes ashamed of what happened for numerous reasons, but shes also displaying classic abuse victim behaviour or blaming herself and defending him.

If she wanted public sympathy or sympathy from the house she could have recounted the whole sorry affair but has chosen to not do that, speaks volumes imo. She just wants to forget it all and move on. I still cant believe people are attacking the girl for being basically abused.