[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Then find better ones or keep a closer eye on their internet usage.

I do, but I know how easy it is go stumble upon some dodgy site without realising it.

[Z]

Originally Posted by Lee.

That's a different and difficult scenario, I do admit.

You'll just have to come clean with your parents and admit you like touching yourself whilst watching porn.. Aw Greg, you're life is one embarrassment after another

You'll be even more mortified when you realise you can watch poem freely and your ma and pa must have opted out

pmsl but this is going to happen up and down the country - either you embarrass yourself and admit you want to watch porn, or you repress yourself and either end up breaking a law that you would never have broken if they had made it an opt-in system rather than an opt-out system; or you end up sexually frustrated and I'd imagine more likely to have an affair or commit a sex crime or at the very least cause unprecedented levels of imaginations running wild?!?!?!

I'm really interested to see how this measure develops into proposed legislation, it's going to come under a lot of criticism but I think, all things considered, it is a step in the right direction towards regulating the internet. It's been lawless for too long.

[Livia]

I don't see why adults should have to opt in to save parents the responsibility of having to opt out. I don't have kids... why should I be regulated?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Lee.

That's a different and difficult scenario, I do admit.

You'll just have to come clean with your parents and admit you like touching yourself whilst watching porn.. Aw Greg, you're life is one embarrassment after another

You'll be even more mortified when you realise you can watch poem freely and your ma and pa must have opted out

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Ignorant isn't an insult when it's true, there's already tons of methods to prevent kids from viewing porn as well as monitoring internet usage. If these parents were so worried about their kids misusing the internet then they should already have Parental Controls and monitoring programs in place.

Who are you being rude about now, all parents who support this or just me?
Not sure why you won't look at the bigger picture here, as said many times in this thread the child access issues are only one part of the reason for this change.

[jackc1806]

Has to be said just went on Google SafeSearch and I found porn on tumblr in like 10 seconds. So how will the govt be able to block it?

[Brother Leon]

It better be me answering that phone call and not my mum lol.

[Z]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Oh cum on.... that was a play on words zee
I was going to make a joke about this pun...
''The Porn Industry has strict rules and guidelines and you're screwed if you don't abide by them.''
But I won't bother now

Lol I know it was but it's representative of the age old men vs women argument that men are randy buggers and women are prudish ball busters, depending on which side of the gender fence you're leaning on, you know the kind of debate. Porn is made for men, for the most part. This just seems so bizarre.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Zee

What about websites like Facebook? Say one of your mates gets his ass out and moons someone and someone else has filmed it and put it up online - are you going to be able to watch it? If your ISP has blocked porn, how can it detect nudity in every form? Will Michelangelo's David be blocked from Google images because it shows the naked male body; will modern photography with nude models be blocked because it shows the naked body? What if you post a picture on your friend's Facebook or tweet an image at them - and under your ISP settings, is fine, but under theirs, is blocked? Will they be prosecuted?! How on earth will this even be implemented? It's madness.

Jeremy Vine was asking Cameron about this earlier and he couldn't really give a clear answer, he also brought up things like porngraphic stories and whether that would be filtered as well, I think this is more about chasing headlines then actually putting into place a realisable and effective policy tbh

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Who are you being rude about now, all parents who support this or just me?
Not sure why you won't look at the bigger picture here, as said many times in this thread the child access issues are only one part of the reason for this change.

The parents are ignorant because they don't use measures that are in place.
http://help.sky.com/security/stay-sa...ental-controls

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Who are you being rude about now, all parents who support this or just me?
Not sure why you won't look at the bigger picture here, as said many times in this thread the child access issues are only one part of the reason for this change.

Well if you take the time to actually read my posts you'd see that I'm not being specific and I'm talking about the thousands of hands off parents who are too lazy and/or ignorant to do some actual parenting and not leave it up to the government to do it for them.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Lee.

I do, but I know how easy it is go stumble upon some dodgy site without realising it.

Nothing is perfect, the measures they've announced won't be either, far from it I expect.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Well if you take the time to actually read my posts you'd see that I'm not being specific and I'm talking about the thousands of hands off parents who are too lazy and/or ignorant to do some actual parenting and not leave it up to the government to do it for them.

And if you took the time to read mine you would see I agree with that, and I am being specific, in that I think it will aid in the identification and if necessary monitoring of illegal activity.

[reece(:]

**** Cameron, atleast Amsterdam is just a cheap boat ride away.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

And if you took the time to read mine you would see I agree with that, and I am being specific, in that I think it will aid in the identification and if necessary monitoring of illegal activity.

Except it won't since that sort of thing is handled with special P2P sites and programs and this block will do nothing to stop it. It's only going to block the legal stuff which means that it's pointless in preventing anything illegal.

It won't even work that well to protect kids from viewing porn anyway since Parental Control programs tend to tell you if the kids are trying to access something inappropriate, this block won't and it will take all of two seconds for proxies to be created to get around it.

[Lee.]

I'm bored with this debate now. Cheerio..

Originally Posted by Lee.

I'm bored with this debate now. Cheerio..

Going for a wank?

[Niamh.]

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Except it won't since that sort of thing is handled with special P2P sites and programs and this block will do nothing to stop it. It's only going to block the legal stuff which means that it's pointless in preventing anything illegal.

It won't even work that well to protect kids from viewing porn anyway since Parental Control programs tend to tell you if the kids are trying to access something inappropriate, this block won't and it will take all of two seconds for proxies to be created to get around it.

Well we'll see, Cameron has advised Google and others to get their 'big brains' in gear and come up with solutions to these kinds of problems?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Well we'll see, Cameron has advised Google and others to get their 'big brains' in gear and come up with solutions to these kinds of problems?

Which makes the block even more pointless since Google will be able to do more to stop it then Cameron's wall ever will.

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Well we'll see, Cameron has advised Google and others to get their 'big brains' in gear and come up with solutions to these kinds of problems?

Meanwhile, Google are thinking

"Is this guy retarded or something?"

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by reece(:

**** Cameron, atleast Amsterdam is just a cheap boat ride away.

That's a long way to go for a wank

[CaudleHalbard]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Well we'll see, Cameron has advised Google and others to get their 'big brains' in gear and come up with solutions to these kinds of problems?

Which means nothing will be done and it will eventually get kicked into the long grass!

[Niall]

Originally Posted by Lee.

But it's NOT BEING BANNED! you will still have the option to watch it, but you'll just have to prove you're an adult!

And to be honest I really don't think the proctoon companies are making a lot of money out of their films being shown for free on file sharing sites.

Yes, but it is being censored. Either way it's being made intentionally hard to access, which will no doubt affect the revenue of the various production companies in the industry.

And that makes my point all the more relevant. Why take away even more money from this industry like this? A couple major ramifications this filter will have is both causing people to use creative methods to avoid the filter (which already happens with torrenting sites), and indirectly and eventually creating a more unsafe working environment for actors that have this as their day job.

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

Going for a wank?

Indeed