[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

come to think of it its not even rape bc the bottom is like yeah yeah harder etc

thats why idg how they are gonna censor simulated rape bc where do they draw the line like is the whole BDSM thing considered simulated rape idgi

and how would they monitor sites like xtube where hundreds of homemade videos are uploaded everyday

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by Cherie

As Kizzy has already pointed out men (and women) were perfectly able to view porn long before the internet was invented. My goodness talk about how spoilt this generation is.

Porn magazines have been around for decades, long before the internet.

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Firewire

If it isn't taboo and it was normal, we wouldn't need to opt-in.

Sex and masturbation is natural and extremely normal.. Kids having easy access to hardcore pornography isnt

[Z]

Originally Posted by Lee.

It wasn't on my computer it was on her iPod.. And I did install a child safe web browser and changed all her settings to a safe level. She uninstalled the safe browser and reinstalled safari.
Kids are very computer literate nowadays.. And I can check what she's searching for on her own devices, but Internet access isn't just restricted to home anymore.. They have Internet at school, in the library, on their phones, on their tablets, iPods, games consoles, grandmas house, their friends houses...

I'm only saying this 'cause of the whole debate this has caused but if we're talking about stopping kids from seeing things they shouldn't be seeing - then kids shouldn't have devices they can use to access the internet without parental consent. It's as simple as that. And also not allow them to go outside in case they come across Page 3 or someone kidnaps them and sells them into prostitution or they get cooties off a boy, but of course we don't do that because we're not insane - sex is a part of life because sex is how life is created. Children are growing up too fast nowadays in comparison to how life was 100, 50, 20 years ago; but don't you remember being a teenager and doing things that your parents wouldn't have approved of? Yet you've turned out as a perfectly functioning adult who is happy and successful and has gone on to have kids of your own and now suddenly here we are speaking on behalf of children, as all adults in history have done to children who have come along after them. Kids are embarrassed by sex because it's new to them. Being able to watch porn is the one outlet where they can learn things without having to ask awkward questions and they can joke about it with their friends. I just can't believe this is even seriously being considered as a thing.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Scott

i have a simulated rape video in my favorites on xtube its these 2 guys in a gym and the dom catches the other guy looking at him in the locker room so he ties him to the bench with his shoelaces and rapes him and its really hot bye

Thats Legal
as its Acting.


Make sure you Opt In


You will be fine

[Kizzy]

[QUOTE=Firewire;6197193]



i shouldn't need to buy my own house in order to have a wank to some porn...

it's not about imagination. times have change, we're taking a step back.

i've been watching porn since i was 12. and it's not a bad thing. it's helped me discover who i am. it's never done me any harm, i've never raped anyone because of it, i've never felt pressured to have sex, i've never watched anything illegal (that i know of). the whole situation is just ludicrous. 18 is the age that we're "allowed" to watch porn, yet the age of consent is 16. porn isn't restricted, but i couldn't come across child porn if i tried. i wouldn't try, but i bet if i did, i'd struggle greatly.

and as it goes for children watching it, they shouldn't. and that's down to their parents. if they activate adult content filters, there shouldn't be a problem. an 8 year old shouldn't even be on the computer that much anyway, they don't have facebook, they don't have tumblr, they'll play club penguin and that's about it. maybe watch something from CBBC on iplayer. but what baffles me is that fact that lazy parents are letting the government filter all porn, when it can be manually filtered through an anti-virus software.

also, people who are opposing this don't even watch porn, so of course it doesn't make it any more difficult for you.

You are speaking lie it's some god given right, get some perspective fgs

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Firewire

Porn magazines have been around for decades, long before the internet.

Yeah and you had to be 18 to buy one.. Which is my whole point

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Lee.

Ok, I made it all up.

I have a 9 year old son, they know alot at that age.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Lee.

Sex and masturbation is natural and extremely normal.. Kids having easy access to hardcore pornography isnt

Very True
Lee

[Z]

Originally Posted by Cherie

As Kizzy has already pointed out men (and women) were perfectly able to view porn long before the internet was invented. My goodness talk about how spoilt this generation is.

Spoilt? I'm spoilt because I think the government being able to censor what I can and can't view is wrong? Well if it wasn't a big deal for all that time, why should it be now? What a ridiculous statement to make Cherie.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Zee

Spoilt? I'm spoilt because I think the government being able to censor what I can and can't view is wrong? Well if it wasn't a big deal for all that time, why should it be now? What a ridiculous statement to make Cherie.

Zee


Jump in the Shower


Let It all Out

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Lee.

Sex and masturbation is natural and extremely normal.. Kids having easy access to hardcore pornography isnt

Exactly, and we ARE talking about Kids here, as young at 7,8,9, you can put some fairly harmless words into a search engine at the moment and it can come up with some fairly graphic sexual images, just type in the word Teenage (which is fairly innocuous and see what you get.

[Scarlett.]

[QUOTE=Kizzy;6197302]

Originally Posted by Firewire

i shouldn't need to buy my own house in order to have a wank to some porn...

it's not about imagination. times have change, we're taking a step back.

i've been watching porn since i was 12. and it's not a bad thing. it's helped me discover who i am. it's never done me any harm, i've never raped anyone because of it, i've never felt pressured to have sex, i've never watched anything illegal (that i know of). the whole situation is just ludicrous. 18 is the age that we're "allowed" to watch porn, yet the age of consent is 16. porn isn't restricted, but i couldn't come across child porn if i tried. i wouldn't try, but i bet if i did, i'd struggle greatly.

and as it goes for children watching it, they shouldn't. and that's down to their parents. if they activate adult content filters, there shouldn't be a problem. an 8 year old shouldn't even be on the computer that much anyway, they don't have facebook, they don't have tumblr, they'll play club penguin and that's about it. maybe watch something from CBBC on iplayer. but what baffles me is that fact that lazy parents are letting the government filter all porn, when it can be manually filtered through an anti-virus software.

also, people who are opposing this don't even watch porn, so of course it doesn't make it any more difficult for you.

You are speaking lie it's some god given right, get some perspective fgs

Because it's basically censorship.

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by Lee.

Sex and masturbation is natural and extremely normal.. Kids having easy access to hardcore pornography isnt

Exactly. I'm not trying to make the latter normal. There are restrictions and you can monitor what your children are doing on the internet to stop them coming across it. I also don't think children exploring due to curiosity is wrong either. If a 10 year old girl googles "boobs" because she wants to see what boobs look like, and what will possibly happen to her when she goes through puberty, is that so wrong?

Originally Posted by Scott

come to think of it its not even rape bc the bottom is like yeah yeah harder etc

thats why idg how they are gonna censor simulated rape bc where do they draw the line like is the whole BDSM thing considered simulated rape idgi

and how would they monitor sites like xtube where hundreds of homemade videos are uploaded everyday

I thought a rule had already been brought in that made porn depicting violence in it as illegal?

[Z]

This is honestly like an episode of South Park, this is hysterical. Men like masturbating. Women do too. We all know it and none of us speak about it because it is the one remaining taboo in society. It shouldn't be a taboo, but it is, and now David Cameron is reinforcing that taboo. I'm not sure how old any of your kids are, but when they are teenagers and they bring home boyfriends and girlfriends, you're probably going to be terrified that someone's going to get pregnant and you'd probably much rather pretend they're not at it or at least curious. You can't even set an age where things are deemed acceptable and unacceptable because people hit puberty at different ages. My best friend hit puberty in Primary 7.

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by Lee.

Yeah and you had to be 18 to buy one.. Which is my whole point

Being 18 to buy one doesn't mean you needed to be 18 to read one...

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

they will probably try to ban all non vanilla porn eventually

wont even be able to see a guy drink his ****buddys piss out of a reebok classic come 2017

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

not that im into that

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Zee

I'm only saying this 'cause of the whole debate this has caused but if we're talking about stopping kids from seeing things they shouldn't be seeing - then kids shouldn't have devices they can use to access the internet without parental consent. It's as simple as that. And also not allow them to go outside in case they come across Page 3 or someone kidnaps them and sells them into prostitution or they get cooties off a boy, but of course we don't do that because we're not insane - sex is a part of life because sex is how life is created. Children are growing up too fast nowadays in comparison to how life was 100, 50, 20 years ago; but don't you remember being a teenager and doing things that your parents wouldn't have approved of? Yet you've turned out as a perfectly functioning adult who is happy and successful and has gone on to have kids of your own and now suddenly here we are speaking on behalf of children, as all adults in history have done to children who have come along after them. Kids are embarrassed by sex because it's new to them. Being able to watch porn is the one outlet where they can learn things without having to ask awkward questions and they can joke about it with their friends. I just can't believe this is even seriously being considered as a thing.

It's easy enough to say. Kids shouldn't have technology, but the reality is that it plays a huge part in today's generation. Since as young ad p1, my kids have had to use the Internet for homework and project research, and since nursery every class goes to the IT suite a couple if times a week to be taught about computers.
As I said earlier in the thread, I think the Internet is amazing and my daughter learns do much from it, but wondering what she could accidentally see is a worry

[Niall]

What I really cannot understand is how some are against an opt in system here. I just don't know how that can be argued against.

If you want to sacrifice your civil liberties in the name of 'keeping children safe' and reinforcing Victorian taboos then you're an idiot in my books anyhow.

Originally Posted by Scott

they will probably try to ban all non vanilla porn eventually

wont even be able to see a guy drink his ****buddys piss out of a reebok classic come 2017

Dark days indeed.

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by Niall

What I really cannot understand is how some are against an opt in system here. I just don't know how that can be argued against.

If you want to sacrifice your civil liberties in the name of 'keeping children safe' and reinforcing Victorian taboos then you're an idiot in my books anyhow.

Having a system where parents can opt-in to the whole thing would be fine IMO, just don't force it on everyone.

[Kizzy]

[QUOTE=Chewy;6197327]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Because it's basically censorship.

How does firewire know who watches porn?...

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Firewire

Exactly. I'm not trying to make the latter normal. There are restrictions and you can monitor what your children are doing on the internet to stop them coming across it. I also don't think children exploring due to curiosity is wrong either. If a 10 year old girl googles "boobs" because she wants to see what boobs look like, and what will possibly happen to her when she goes through puberty, is that so wrong?

No, there's nothing wrong with that at all.. It's the websites she could end up on whilst googling boobs that worries me.