[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Josy

How do you know people never gave Paul lots of **** for his relationship with Helen or branded him a home wrecker (genuinely wondering)?

Because I watched the show and read about it?

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Because I watched the show and read about it?

Yeah so did I but at that point there wasn't really as much discussions on forums and stuff like this one that's why I was genuinely wondering, maybe he did get grief from people but we were just unaware?

I could be wrong here since it was so long ago but wasn't it Helen that started the whole thing off? I just don't think the two relationships can be compared anyway IMO they fell for each other, it was genuine and they went on to have a healthy relationship outside the house that lasted years, I never saw it the same way with Daley and Hazel, it just all looked like sexual attraction/frustration between those two especially the way she kept trying to arouse him..

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Josy

Yeah so did I but at that point there wasn't really as much discussions on forums and stuff like this one that's why I was genuinely wondering, maybe he did get grief from people but we were just unaware?

I could be wrong here since it was so long ago but wasn't it Helen that started the whole thing off? I just don't think the two relationships can be compared anyway IMO they fell for each other, it was genuine and they went on to have a healthy relationship outside the house that lasted years, I never saw it the same way with Daley and Hazel, it just all looked like sexual attraction/frustration between those two especially the way she kept trying to arouse him..

No I wasn't joined a forum back then but there was BBLB and BB featured a whole lot more in magazines etc back then so there was plenty of opinions floating about. Everyone loved them two and was hoping they'd get together as far as I can remember it.

I take your point about the type of relationship but I'm just talking more about the Home wrecking label

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Josy

Yeah so did I but at that point there wasn't really as much discussions on forums and stuff like this one that's why I was genuinely wondering, maybe he did get grief from people but we were just unaware?

I could be wrong here since it was so long ago but wasn't it Helen that started the whole thing off? I just don't think the two relationships can be compared anyway IMO they fell for each other, it was genuine and they went on to have a healthy relationship outside the house that lasted years, I never saw it the same way with Daley and Hazel, it just all looked like sexual attraction/frustration between those two especially the way she kept trying to arouse him..

Who initiated it and how it played out is beside the point here slightly. The fact is there were two people, one in a relationship and they still went ahead and acted on their impulses.
So in that respect they are identical...
Yes hazel was already unpopular for her perceived role initially but the real injustice was when this unpopularity was highlighted following daleys expulsion and used as an excuse for the assault.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Who initiated it and how it played out is beside the point here slightly. The fact is there were two people, one in a relationship and they still went ahead and acted on their impulses.
So in that respect they are identical...
Yes hazel was already unpopular for her perceived role initially but the real injustice was when this unpopularity was highlighted following daleys expulsion and used as an excuse for the assault.

Not identical in the slightest Kizzy, for a start it wasn't all sexually charged with them, Helen wasn't constantly trying to make Paul stand to attention, I think they genuinely fell in love with each other, read my last post back for the differences I saw in the relationships...

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Josy

Not identical in the slightest Kizzy, for a start it wasn't all sexually charged with them, Helen wasn't constantly trying to make Paul stand to attention, I think they genuinely fell in love with each other, read my last post back for the differences I saw in the relationships...

There was an attraction, that's usually how relationships whether intense or lasting start.
Again the basic concept is the same, a man and woman and a decision to be made, it makes no difference what differences there are in the type of relationship they triggered... the fact is there was one.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

There was an attraction, that's usually how relationships whether intense or lasting start.
Again the basic concept is the same, a man and woman and a decision to be made, it makes no difference what differences there are in the type of relationship they triggered... the fact is there was one.

Really?

Anyway again read my last posts.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Josy

Really?

Anyway again read my last posts.

I have read them josy, I just don't agree.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Josy

Not identical in the slightest Kizzy, for a start it wasn't all sexually charged with them, Helen wasn't constantly trying to make Paul stand to attention, I think they genuinely fell in love with each other, read my last post back for the differences I saw in the relationships...

How do you know Helen didn't make Paul stand to attention? There weren't as many cameras then and the coverage wasn't 24/7 .

I think Naimh makes a great comparison and its interesting that so many want to try and say its different when fundamentally it isn't. There is not much nuance between the two relationships if you look at it from an purely objective point of view.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

How do you know Helen didn't make Paul stand to attention? There weren't as many cameras then and the coverage wasn't 24/7 .

I think Naimh makes a great comparison and its interesting that so many want to try and say its different when fundamentally it isn't. There is not much nuance between the two relationships if you look at it from an purely objective point of view.

Originally Posted by Josy

Having said that though I think it's wrong for to cheat in any way or get with someone that has a partner, so I'm not condoning that in anyway, just don't think these 2 relationships are the best one to compare.

Cant be bothered posting the same things over and over...I have never blamed Hazel for the relationship with Daley so the double standards thing does not apply to me anyway...

And also there was live coverage even though it wasn't 24/7 I'm sure we saw a lot more then than we do now but that could be wrong it was so long ago I can't really remember but from what I watched Helen acted nothing at all like Hazel.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Josy

Cant be bothered posting the same things over and over...I have never blamed Hazel for the relationship with Daley so the double standards thing does not apply to me anyway...

And also there was live coverage even though it wasn't 24/7 I'm sure we saw a lot more then than we do now but that could be wrong it was so long ago I can't really remember but from what I watched Helen acted nothing at all like Hazel.

So you think Hazel acted bad? Even though she's single and thought Daley was too but Helen didnt act badly even though she was definitely in a committed long term relationship? OK