[Lex]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Yet another Sam Bashing thread. There are loads now but they do say......A measure of your popularity can be judge by how many haters you have. Loads of worried Dexter and Gina fans out there now.

By that logic...Dexter must be have enough "popularity" to win the next 12 big brothers or so then!!
Your contradictory ethics are beginning to grind on me now sampvt! ...everybody knows that if it were to have been Dexter that made that sleazy-remark [and many of Sam's others]...that you would be crucifying him for it!! ....

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Livia

Clearly they are allowed to make threads about it. You are on one right now.

However, as this is a forum, your ideas will be challenged. But you already know that... right?

You missed the 'without being accused of smear campaigning and getting desperate' Of course threads can made.

I don't believe this thread is desperate, by and large it's pointing out the double standards. Sam gets an easier ride for some reason.

[Jemal]

Originally Posted by Videostar

My annoyance here is that Dexter hasn't said anything quite that bad and yet one tiny comment he makes and he gets slaughtered for it, same with any of the other HM's...Sam's crude remarks might not be the worst in history and doesn't make him a hate figure but it does show that he is no better than any of the others in the house.

lol he told a man hes age "i will stick it in you"

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by smeagol

lol@ and

if dexter or someone else had said it people would be all over them like a rash

mr innocent cant do no wrong. you dont say that sort of stuff to strangers.

If Dexter had said it, it would be likely be all over here what a humerous,funny guy he was,quite the lad.

[Videostar]

Originally Posted by Hadouken

lol he told a man hes age "i will stick it in you"

LOL you still banging on about Callum's twisted version of what Dexter actually said...really? now that's desperate.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Lex

By that logic...Dexter must be have enough "popularity" to win the next 12 big brothers or so then!!
Your contradictory ethics are beginning to grind on me now sampvt! ...everybody knows that if it were to have been Dexter that made that sleazy-remark [and many of Sam's others]...that you would be crucifying him for it!! ....

Dexter doesn't need to make sleazy remarks. The fact that he's quite openly discussed paying for sex and using women as accessories... the fact that he calls himself "London's Biggest Sugar Daddy" (although he doesn't actually come from, or live in, London), the fact that he's a "dating coach" and thinks that he can pass on the skills to get women in to bed while his own approach to Hazel and Charlie would suggest he could do with a class himself... His whole persona is sleazy.

Sam probably shouldn't have said what he did. But he's naive, rather than a sleaze and for people to be acting all outraged at Sam makes me LMFAO.

[KingOfTheMods]

Harmless really. He's still a cock though.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Hadouken

lol he told a man hes age "i will stick it in you"

Yes and didn't you get on your high horse about it.

Using Callum's twisted version to argue your case.

Why is Sam's comment less offensive to you?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Livia

Dexter doesn't need to make sleazy remarks. The fact that he's quite openly discussed paying for sex and using women as accessories... the fact that he calls himself "London's Biggest Sugar Daddy" (although he doesn't actually come from, or live in, London), the fact that he's a "dating coach" and thinks that he can pass on the skills to get women in to bed while his own approach to Hazel and Charlie would suggest he could do with a class himself... His whole persona is sleazy.

Sam probably shouldn't have said what he did. But he's naive, rather than a sleaze and for people to be acting all outraged at Sam makes me LMFAO.

Three massive cheers for you Livia and really well said too. Great post,(as always).

[Livia]

Originally Posted by MrWong

You missed the 'without being accused of smear campaigning and getting desperate' Of course threads can made.

I don't believe this thread is desperate, by and large it's pointing out the double standards. Sam gets an easier ride for some reason.

No I didn't miss it.

Sam gets an easier ride because he's younger, more immature, less worldly and a lot more naive than Dexter. I'm sure you can see that's true.

[Jemal]

Originally Posted by Videostar

LOL you still banging on about Callum's twisted version of what Dexter actually said...really? now that's desperate.

What's desperate is you creating Sam threads, so dont be a hypocrite.
just trying to find a way to bring him down? #epicfail
Thing is dexter said that to callum... And ill tell you when because everyone is thinking about the wrong convo.
Dexter and callum were sitting on the kitchen counter, dan was cooking and hazel and Charlie were talking. This is the night hazel and Charlie had the chocolate fight and also Charlie and dexter went in the shower. Dexter kept going on and on and on and as callum said when dexter said he laughed it off.
Hence why dan stuck up for callum later that night even tho he doesn't like callum. Dan also told callum "i thought dexter came across as a right prick last night, the things he was saying was urgh"

[Videostar]

Originally Posted by Livia

Dexter doesn't need to make sleazy remarks. The fact that he's quite openly discussed paying for sex and using women as accessories... the fact that he calls himself "London's Biggest Sugar Daddy" (although he doesn't actually come from, or live in, London), the fact that he's a "dating coach" and thinks that he can pass on the skills to get women in to bed while his own approach to Hazel and Charlie would suggest he could do with a class himself... His whole persona is sleazy.

Sam probably shouldn't have said what he did. But he's naive, rather than a sleaze and for people to be acting all outraged at Sam makes me LMFAO.

I think we can take a lot of Dexter's stories about what he has done in his life with a pinch of salt....and even if true that happened outside the house, we shouldn't judge anyone for what they did before entering the house, we can only judge what we see them say or do inside the house.

[Videostar]

Originally Posted by Hadouken

What's desperate you creating Sam threads
To try and find a way to bring him down? #epicfail
Thing is dexter said that to callum... And ill tell you when because everyone is thinking about the wrong convo.
Dexter and callum were sitting on the kitchen counter, dan was cooking and hazel and Charlie were talking. This is the night hazel and Charlie had the chocolate fight and also Charlie and dexter went in the shower. Dexter kept going on and on and on and as callum said when dexter said he laughed it off.
Hence why dan stuck up for callum later that night even tho he doesn't like callum. Dan also told callum "i thought dexter came across as a right prick last night, the things he was saying was urgh"

You know full well the context in which Dexter said what he did to Callum, it was Callum who decided to take it in a sexual way...but that's a matter for him and his own issues.

[Jemal]

Originally Posted by Videostar

You know full well the context in which Dexter said what he did to Callum, it was Callum who decided to take it in a sexual way...but that's a matter for him and his own issues.

Joking or not, im sorry but you cannot say i will stick it in you. What kind of shtty humour is that.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Videostar

I think we can take a lot of Dexter's stories about what he has done in his life with a pinch of salt....and even if true that happened outside the house, we shouldn't judge anyone for what they did before entering the house, we can only judge what we see them say or do inside the house.

Like the rodeo comments that he was warned for..... for offensive sexual language?

[smeagol]

Originally Posted by Livia

No I didn't miss it.

Sam gets an easier ride because he's younger, more immature, less worldly and a lot more naive than Dexter. I'm sure you can see that's true.

sam is only a few years younger lol

[Jemal]

If callum had said that people on here would of been like "told you hes creepy" "so weird" "GET CALLUM OUT" "CREEPSTER CALLUM OUT"....

[Videostar]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Like the rodeo comments that he was warned for..... for offensive sexual language?

He was warned for that, so where was Sam's warnings for far worse comment aimed at female guests that were there for a task.?

[MTVN]

He has made a habit of making some quite explicit comments to people he's literally just met, I don't think he has any real awareness of what's appropriate and what isn't

[Lex]

Originally Posted by Livia

No I didn't miss it.

Sam gets an easier ride because he's younger, more immature, less worldly and a lot more naive than Dexter. I'm sure you can see that's true.

Not because of his disability then Livia?..and it's ok because he has this persona of 'innocent young lad...I didn't expect double standards from you...!..he's 24 years old...and if he's not been brought up to respect common decency then he should not have been in the house!
Whether you are a fan or not...Sam should not get any more leeway than Dexter or any of the other house-mates when it comes to public decency!!

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Livia

Dexter doesn't need to make sleazy remarks. The fact that he's quite openly discussed paying for sex and using women as accessories... the fact that he calls himself "London's Biggest Sugar Daddy" (although he doesn't actually come from, or live in, London), the fact that he's a "dating coach" and thinks that he can pass on the skills to get women in to bed while his own approach to Hazel and Charlie would suggest he could do with a class himself... His whole persona is sleazy.

Sam probably shouldn't have said what he did. But he's naive, rather than a sleaze and for people to be acting all outraged at Sam makes me LMFAO.

Good post Livia,all true

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Livia

No I didn't miss it.

Sam gets an easier ride because he's younger, more immature, less worldly and a lot more naive than Dexter. I'm sure you can see that's true.

Bit pointless telling me threads could be made about it then.

Sam's 24 isn't he? His humours immature but I don't think he's immature in general. He lived in America for a while, without friends and family too.

I don't think he's this naďve young lad from the valleys that you've described.

[Black Dagger]

If Dexter said this he'd be described as a dirty rat and sleazy and disgusting... but because 'harmless, deaf, genuine' Sam said it, it's quite alright and just harmless banter.

k

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Black Dagger

If Dexter said this he'd be described as a dirty rat and sleazy and disgusting... but because 'harmless, deaf, genuine' Sam said it, it's quite alright and just harmless banter.

k

I know, the double standards really piss me off.

[Jemal]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Yes and didn't you get on your high horse about it.

Using Callum's twisted version to argue your case.

Why is Sam's comment less offensive to you?

Twisted version? Look at what i posted to videostar.