[MachoPoodle]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

If you went to Pakistan and started burning the Quran in the street,What d'you think would happen to you?I bet it would be more than a Ł50 fine.When our authorities are soft on this kind of thing,People see the double standards and rebel against it,Hence UKIP doing well for themselves.Jimrod is right.

You can argue for harder punishment for something like that w/o going the route of voting for UKIP, can you not?

[DanaC]

Originally Posted by MachoPoodle

You can argue for harder punishment for something like that w/o going the route of voting for UKIP, can you not?

Not to mention: it's a valid call of double standard if there is evidence that the police and judiciary in this country treat an offence carried by one group more leniently than if it were committed by another group. It's not a double standard when our police treat us (black white or stripey) differently for committing an offence in this country, than the police of an anther country would treat us (black white or stripey) for committing the same offence in that country.

[MachoPoodle]

Originally Posted by DanaC

Not to mention: it's a valid call of double standard if there is evidence that the police and judiciary in this country treat an offence carried by one group more leniently than if it were committed by another group. It's not a double standard when our police treat us (black white or stripey) differently for committing an offence in this country, than the police of an anther country would treat us (black white or stripey) for committing the same offence in that country.

Very true.

[LANDROVER]

Originally Posted by MachoPoodle

Very true.

Not so.Reminds me of a story from the bible.
A zebra died and at the pearly gates was asked by St. Peter if there was anything bothering him before he passed over.
Yes said the zebra I need to know whether I am white with black stripes or am I black with white stripes?
Only god can answer that replied St. Peter, youll have to ask him.
Later when the zebra returned St. Peter asked him if god had answered his question. Well said the zebra im still confused, he just looked at me and said. You are what are.
Then you have your answer said St. Peter, you are white with black stripes.
How do you come to that conclusion asked the zebra.

Well replied St. Peter if you were black with white stripes god would have said, youz iz wat you iz.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by DanaC

Not to mention: it's a valid call of double standard if there is evidence that the police and judiciary in this country treat an offence carried by one group more leniently than if it were committed by another group. It's not a double standard when our police treat us (black white or stripey) differently for committing an offence in this country, than the police of an anther country would treat us (black white or stripey) for committing the same offence in that country.

And turn a blind eye when muslims abuse our soldiers after they have got back from saving THIER families

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

And turn a blind eye when muslims abuse our soldiers after they have got back from saving THIER families

Excellent point, and really well made. When are those Muslims going to learn that we only bomb the ****** out of their homelands, and murder hundreds of thousand of civilians, in order to save them and their families?

[MachoPoodle]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

Excellent point, and really well made. When are those Muslims going to learn that we only bomb the ****** out of their homelands, and murder hundreds of thousand of civilians, in order to save them and their families?

They are such an ungrateful bunch, aren't they?

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

Excellent point, and really well made. When are those Muslims going to learn that we only bomb the ****** out of their homelands, and murder hundreds of thousand of civilians, in order to save them and their families?

hundreds of thousands...

Originally Posted by parmnion

hundreds of thousands...

Estimates put the civilian death toll in Iraq and Afghanistan alone, at somewhere between 120,000, and 250,000. I'd say hundreds of thousands represents that figure pretty accurately.

How would you like it to have been worded?

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

Estimates put the civilian death toll in Iraq and Afghanistan alone, at somewhere between 120,000, and 250,000. I'd say hundreds of thousands represents that figure pretty accurately.

by our troops?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

Excellent point, and really well made. When are those Muslims going to learn that we only bomb the ****** out of their homelands, and murder hundreds of thousand of civilians, in order to save them and their families?

I know... and there never was a reason for it, them being such a peace-loving people. I mean, it's not like the people we've been at war with carry out any acts of terrorism, or indoctrinate and abuse their own people, or train terrorists from all over the world.

Hundreds of thousands of civilians? A figure plucked out of the air, I think.

And back on topic... Ron is a fool. In one scene there he is telling us that he still works as a football pundit "with the Middle East lads..." and minutes later he's making a completely inappropriate comment regarding headscarves and suicide bombers. I imagine the "Middle East lads" will be examining Ron's contract even as I type. There's no fool like and old fool. He's learned absolutely nothing from his past mistakes and the words continue to pour freely from his lips without the clutch of tact.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Livia

I know... and there never was a reason for it, them being such a peace-loving people. I mean, it's not like the people we've been at war with carry out any acts of terrorism, or indoctrinate and abuse their own people, or train terrorists from all over the world.

Hundreds of thousands of civilians? A figure plucked out of the air, I think.

And back on topic... Ron is a fool. In one scene there he is telling us that he still works as a football pundit "with the Middle East lads..." and minutes later he's making a completely inappropriate comment regarding headscarves and suicide bombers. I imagine the "Middle East lads" will be examining Ron's contract even as I type. There's no fool like and old fool. He's learned absolutely nothing from his past mistakes and the words continue to pour freely from his lips without the clutch of tact.

Are you including Israeli abuses here? How is that figure plucked out of the air? those figures have been given for many years? How tactless are your words?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by the truth

Are you including Israeli abuses here? How is that figure plucked out of the air? those figures have been given for many years? How tactless are your words?

Now why would you think I would be referring to Israel?

Originally Posted by Livia

I know... and there never was a reason for it, them being such a peace-loving people. I mean, it's not like the people we've been at war with carry out any acts of terrorism, or indoctrinate and abuse their own people, or train terrorists from all over the world.

Hundreds of thousands of civilians? A figure plucked out of the air, I think.

And back on topic... Ron is a fool. In one scene there he is telling us that he still works as a football pundit "with the Middle East lads..." and minutes later he's making a completely inappropriate comment regarding headscarves and suicide bombers. I imagine the "Middle East lads" will be examining Ron's contract even as I type. There's no fool like and old fool. He's learned absolutely nothing from his past mistakes and the words continue to pour freely from his lips without the clutch of tact.

So what was the reason then?

Regardless of how countries treat their own people, it is up to those people to deal with it. Anyone would think the only system of government we know is democracy. The monarchy didn't give up power for the sake of it, they had it taken away from them by the people.

We did that without America swooping in and saving us.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

So what was the reason then?

Regardless of how countries treat their own people, it is up to those people to deal with it. Anyone would think the only system of government we know is democracy. The monarchy didn't give up power for the sake of it, they had it taken away from them by the people.

We did that without America swooping in and saving us.

This isn't the place for a debate like this. And I'm probably not the right person if you're looking for someone to say how awful the British Army are, and how misunderstood the Taliban are.

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

So what was the reason then?

Regardless of how countries treat their own people, it is up to those people to deal with it. Anyone would think the only system of government we know is democracy. The monarchy didn't give up power for the sake of it, they had it taken away from them by the people.

We did that without America swooping in and saving us.

I don't agree with that. Egypt isn't doing a very good job of dealing with itself right now and neither is Syria. I didn't agree with the invasion of Afghanistan and i probably never will but sometimes outside intervention is necessary.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by MachoPoodle

You can argue for harder punishment for something like that w/o going the route of voting for UKIP, can you not?

You are right,You can,But people don't.That's why UKIP are getting more votes.

[MachoPoodle]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

You are right,You can,But people don't.That's why UKIP are getting more votes.

It's still a cop out though, in many cases. But I agree with other parties being bad at handle (and discussing) sensitive issues like immigration, racial/religious tensions etc and thus handing over an unnecessary large portion of votes to UKIP.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

You are right,You can,But people don't.That's why UKIP are getting more votes.

Very true