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Originally Posted by DanaC

But here's the thing: if a behaviour is a male behaviour because men do it, then surely a behaviour is female if women do it. And if men developed that way of behaving because they found it fun or in some way satisfying then why do you assume women are doing it to be like men and not because they discovered how fun and in some way satisfying it is?

If you as a male don't find that kind of thing fun and someone else who is female does find it fun - which one of you us acting contrary to your gender?

Women aren't all alike. Some like getting blind drunk some don't. Some like going shopping some don't. Some like playing football some don't. Men also aren't all alike. Some like getting drunk and some don't. Some like going shopping and some don't. Some like playing football and some don't.

There are lots of women who fit into a traditionally feminine role and lots who don't. But that's ok. There are lots of men who fit a traditionally masculine role and lots who don't. That's ok too. Clearly, for you a more traditionally feminine way of being is more attractive. That's also cool. But why would you want all women to fit into a particular version if femininity ?

Women never used to behave that way, so that would suggest it's not a natural female way of behaving...your point would hold water if women always behaved in such a crude Charlotte type way.

I do think modern women feel under pressure to be and act the same as men, to close some sort of gender gap, women boxing (and you don't get much more male than that), drinking as much as men, swearing, fighting on the frontline in wars, and so on...these are certainly not good for women and are not natural for women to be doing...but sadly feminism has pushed women into doing these things as they are conned into believing that is the only way women can be truly equal to men...I respectfully disagree with that.

BTW, before anyone says that I would want women bare foot and pregnant is wrong and I reject that too.

Men and Women can and should be equal but different, lets celebrate our differences instead of denying them.