[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by the truth

Im sorry I think youre totally wrong. Youre making the fatal error of mistaking decency and patience for weakness. Obama has already got a result with the russians fully supporting and implementing the syrian disarmourment of chemical weapons. maybe the russians have had a sweetener who knows. but this is true progress, obama style. He has the list of weapons to be delivered within a week. if not forthcoming the UN will enforce it as obama and kerry have persuaded putin not to veto this.

what else would you want from him at this moment? surely not a bomb and all decade long george bush style war? killing several 100 thousand ?

forget ye not, obama took OBL and 100s of his underlings , he ended the iraq war, he assisted the toppling of ghaddafi and he is withdrawing from the 12 year afghanistan nightmare too. He has helped thwart a vast number of terrorist plots. He has also started a comprehensive nucleur disarmourment programme. Yes there have been mistakes like benghazi, yes he needs to get firmer with israel and Palestine. He has at least kept the Iranian situation under some control, though of course that will run and run. But his foreign results incomparable to warmonger bush. Ultimately he has been respectful , he has been thoughtful , learned (he is a historian too) which helps. Cleary Putin does have a decent relationship with him , otherwise he probably wouldnt have gotten so deeply involved here.

You are mistaken, I am not wrong at all, where you and Nedusa see strength in the wishy washy way he's handled this, I see it for what it is.

What I want from the situation is for peace to happen. But that's not what my comment was about, I was referring to Obama's lack of decisiveness.

From my understanding russia & syria are allies, the notion that russia are doing this for the good of the US is incorrect.

And you left out stuff about Obama, like how the egyptian army are bankrolled by his government, they get about 1 billion a year from his government, this army recently overthrew the democratically elected president.

Also you left out how people have been locked up by Obama without trial and are still imprisoned by him, he has the power to release them.

Obama is just as much a warmonger as Bush was, but one of the differences is that Bush would have been decisive over this syrian thing.