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Old 08-11-2013, 05:21 PM #1
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Default Royal Marine is convicted of murder of Taliban insurgent

[Audio: In a recording of the incident a soldier
is heard saying 'It's nothing you wouldn't
do to us' after the shot is fired into his chest]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2k4zSKbIB


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he should have stopped his Head Cam
from collecting the audio/video


Then no one would have found out.

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[Audio: In a recording of the incident a soldier
is heard saying 'It's nothing you wouldn't
do to us' after the shot is fired into his chest]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2k4zSKbIB


What a Utter Fool
he should have stopped his Head Cam
from collecting the audio/video


Then no one would have found out.

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He shouldn't have done it at all arista
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What a Utter Fool
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Then no one would have found out.
yes, what a missed opportunity
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He shouldn't have done it at all arista
Too right Kaz.
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I know they are soldiers and at war,but wasn't the man injured anyway,not very brave of them was it,I do respect our soldiers etc,but there are some rogue ones.this makes us look bad.
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I'm surprised the other two were completely acquitted, surely they were at least complicit in covering it up if not in the murder itself

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I'm surprised the other two were completely acquitted, surely they were at least complicit in covering it up if not in the murder itself

Yes but only One Fired the Death Bullet.
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Yes but its Life and Death out there.
And they get killed without a word said.
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I'm surprised the other two were completely acquitted, surely they were at least complicit in covering it up if not in the murder itself
You'de have thought so wouldn't you? Have they been totally acquitted?
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Yes but its Life and Death out there.
And they get killed without a word said.
I understand that arista,but it seems wrong to do that to an already injured man.
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You'de have thought so wouldn't you? Have they been totally acquitted?
Think so, read that they'd been cleared to return to service
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Why haven't all three been charged. Keeping this so quiet for two years.
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Think so, read that they'd been cleared to return to service
That shocks me tbh.
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Why haven't all three been charged. Keeping this so quiet for two years.

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Mixed feelings about this to be honest , don't think the soldiers should have been charged with murder I mean ffs they are fighting a bloody war against these people, this wounded Taliban man would have no hesitation if the tables were reversed in killing beheading and dismembering this soldier in a heartbeat.

So why are we coming over all bleeding shocked at this soldiers actions. He has probably seen his best friends blown to pieces in front of him he is probably in a constant state of PTSD his mental state is questionable , I agree he should not have shot the man BUT under the circumstances to call it murder on par with a civilian murder charge is plain nonsense.

This Soldier has made a mistake induced by the Fog of war, I'm sure it happens a lot but this incident was recorded and reported.

I hope this man is discharged from the Army and given the psychiatric treatment he needs and if he is jailed over this incident I hope it is no more than a few years at most.

Let's stop pandering to the bleeding hearts brigade ....!!!!
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Mixed feelings about this to be honest , don't think the soldiers should have been charged with murder I mean ffs they are fighting a bloody war against these people, this wounded Taliban man would have no hesitation if the tables were reversed in killing beheading and dismembering this soldier in a heartbeat.

So why are we coming over all bleeding shocked at this soldiers actions. He has probably seen his best friends blown to pieces in front of him he is probably in a constant state of PTSD his mental state is questionable , I agree he should not have shot the man BUT under the circumstances to call it murder on par with a civilian murder charge is plain nonsense.

This Soldier has made a mistake induced by the Fog of war, I'm sure it happens a lot but this incident was recorded and reported.

I hope this man is discharged from the Army and given the psychiatric treatment he needs and if he is jailed over this incident I hope it is no more than a few years at most.

Let's stop pandering to the bleeding hearts brigade ....!!!!
..did you listen to the recording from the DM article as well, Nedusa..?..my initial thoughts were quite similar to yours and what these men endure every day, how could that not cause 'the fog of war'....but after listening to only that 6 minutes of it, this was a 'matter of fact' cold act of murder and nothing remotely to do with the stresses of wartime...for me, your thoughts are extremely valid of many service men in that situation but I just don't think it applies to this incident.... as in any walk of life there are just 'bad people'....my surprise is that the other two had no repercussions at all, not of the actual murder but for beating/kicking him as he lay there before hand because there seemed nothing 'emotional' in their actions at all....just thugs/nobs who were unfortunately wearing uniforms and carrying weapons....

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I am not of the 'bleeding hearts brigade' myself but I do think in this situation the soldier was wrong,ok they probably would have done the same to him,but we don't know that for sure,they are not all bad ,and two wrongs don't make a right,the man was already injured if they felt such hate,they should have just passed him by,or not made an issue of it,this soldier made it almost a 'game' not sure that's the right word but you know what I mean,it seemed to be in cold blood,so if that had been a 13 year old kid(who do fight) it would have been ok aswell? The soldier should get help and 'life' is a bit harsh I agree.
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All 3 should have been jailed.
Bloody disgrace.
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I think so too smudgie,they give our good soldiers a bad name.
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Incidents this like only serve to make the situation worse... the family, friends and allies of this murdered man are only going to want soldiers out of their country even more and will feel no remorse in murdering soldiers in an eye for an eye move... the soldiers involved in this death ought to be ashamed of themselves. They are not serving their country. They're murderers.
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Mixed feelings about this to be honest , don't think the soldiers should have been charged with murder I mean ffs they are fighting a bloody war against these people, this wounded Taliban man would have no hesitation if the tables were reversed in killing beheading and dismembering this soldier in a heartbeat.

So why are we coming over all bleeding shocked at this soldiers actions. He has probably seen his best friends blown to pieces in front of him he is probably in a constant state of PTSD his mental state is questionable , I agree he should not have shot the man BUT under the circumstances to call it murder on par with a civilian murder charge is plain nonsense.

This Soldier has made a mistake induced by the Fog of war, I'm sure it happens a lot but this incident was recorded and reported.

I hope this man is discharged from the Army and given the psychiatric treatment he needs and if he is jailed over this incident I hope it is no more than a few years at most.

Let's stop pandering to the bleeding hearts brigade ....!!!!
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