[MrWong]

Originally Posted by jet

Honestly? I would have had some respect for him if he had regretted what he said on the night and not showed himself to be a lying coward when Linda came into the garden to ask him about it. He outright denied it, then he bumbled about grasping at straws, then when she went indoors he tried to make himself out to be the injured party with Dappy and Lee.

He did the same thing when he said "don't you miss having a MAN". He went into the garden and lied again, telling the others a different version to gain their support, running her down to them and shouting out to her she was loony.

It was the same story with Luisa - he tells her "ask her about Frank Carson's dressing room" then when Luisa does he lies again and says he said "ask her IS IT ABOUT Frank Carson's dressing room. Does he not know it is all recorded?

To cap it all off, he then gets at Luisa for telling Linda, WTF! trying to shift the blame in his mind from it all to HER.

The man is a manipulative lying coward and in my view he can stick his too late apology up his chauvinistic ass.

Great post. As you say, he lied and bull****ted after dropping the bomb and then whined to the boys claiming to be the injured party.

[bez87]

Originally Posted by sampvt

He didn't blurt out ask her, he said her anger must be something to do with Frank carson, then he said in response to a blank look, ask her about Carson dressing room. Jim knows why she hates him and he wanted it out in the open to clear the air. Its out now and the silly cow is playing the victim. I don't care whether or not its your dad, son or grandson, nobody has the right to defend a convicted theif and as for not talking ill of the dead, should we all now praise Jimmy saville or anyone bad who has passed, I think not.

Wow you must be one of the people who craze people who are scum.

Jim knew exactly what he was doing he said "ASK HER ABOUT FRANK CARSONS DRESSING ROOM" lusia even said what and he repeated he knew exactly what he was doing, it is evil and out of order to bring up the past esps when she wasn't the one who stealed and the guy is dead it happened years ago. he also lied to the lads on how he handled asking lusia about having a man in her life, he never said husband he just out right came out and said why don't you have a man in your life, yes linda jumps at him for silly things, jim didn't need to say that but they could of easily brushed it aside, but there was no reason for jim to lie outside, he is a twisted little man, who gets his kicks from telling the truth and then denying to get a raise out of someone,
just like the way he had a go at lusia and said he never said to ask her, and at that point i rewound the recording and made sure he said ask her and he even said it twice, it's an absolute joke, and a disgrace and how anyone can like that behaviour is beyond me

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by bez87

Wow you must be one of the people who craze people who are scum.

Jim knew exactly what he was doing he said "ASK HER ABOUT FRANK CARSONS DRESSING ROOM" lusia even said what and he repeated he knew exactly what he was doing, it is evil and out of order to bring up the past esps when she wasn't the one who stealed and the guy is dead it happened years ago. he also lied to the lads on how he handled asking lusia about having a man in her life, he never said husband he just out right came out and said why don't you have a man in your life, yes linda jumps at him for silly things, jim didn't need to say that but they could of easily brushed it aside, but there was no reason for jim to lie outside, he is a twisted little man, who gets his kicks from telling the truth and then denying to get a raise out of someone,
just like the way he had a go at lusia and said he never said to ask her, and at that point i rewound the recording and made sure he said ask her and he even said it twice, it's an absolute joke, and a disgrace and how anyone can like that behaviour is beyond me

I agree, I cant see why the British Public can be so naïve and fooled by him. Hes the type of person who can sit there and do nothing and still make you feel uncomfortable because you know how his mind works.

He starts fights with little comments, a housemate bites back and then he walks away telling them they are crazy or turns it around to make them look bad.

Last night he lied and backtracked, its the only argument he couldn't get out of and you could see it in his eyes that he was ****ting himself knowing what he had done was way below the belt. You don't bring up the dead, simple as that. Obviously she feels hurt its like hes made her husband look like a fool to millions of people.

That's the man she loved so she is going to be very angry and defensive.

[cheeky_monkey]

Originally Posted by MrWong

He did intend for Linda to hear it as he specifically told Luisa to ask Linda about it. He said "Ask her about Frank Carson's dressing room"

He then denied saying it.

True.

[Slevin]

he did say to Luisa you should ask her. ask her about Frank Carson's dressing room. like her i thought he was genuinely telling her to really ask. i thought he meant it like a question not some phrase or whatever like thats the way the cookie crumbles lol. but he backtracks and acted like he didnt say that. then Luisa tells him he did but he goes oh i said is it about Frank Carson's dressing room. knowing what the incident was about i dont think he should of went there.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by bez87

Wow you must be one of the people who craze people who are scum.

Jim knew exactly what he was doing he said "ASK HER ABOUT FRANK CARSONS DRESSING ROOM" lusia even said what and he repeated he knew exactly what he was doing, it is evil and out of order to bring up the past esps when she wasn't the one who stealed and the guy is dead it happened years ago. he also lied to the lads on how he handled asking lusia about having a man in her life, he never said husband he just out right came out and said why don't you have a man in your life, yes linda jumps at him for silly things, jim didn't need to say that but they could of easily brushed it aside, but there was no reason for jim to lie outside, he is a twisted little man, who gets his kicks from telling the truth and then denying to get a raise out of someone,
just like the way he had a go at lusia and said he never said to ask her, and at that point i rewound the recording and made sure he said ask her and he even said it twice, it's an absolute joke, and a disgrace and how anyone can like that behaviour is beyond me

quick question..when linda was told that jim said "ask her about Frank Carsons dressing room" did linda say "oh that's my husband"..she did which led me to believe she was actually married to frank carson, so linda got her words a bit muddled up as did jim..jim thought he said ""it will be about frank carsons dressing room" which would tie in with the discussion at the time which was about why linda had it in for him.

[sampvt]

Jim didn't bring up her hubby she did. He opened a wound and she bled the details so don't blame Jim. All she needed to say was, I don't know what you mean, but no, she brought her hubby into it. It was linda that opened that door, jim only put the key in it.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Slevin

he did say to Luisa you should ask her. ask her about Frank Carson's dressing room. like her i thought he was genuinely telling her to really ask. i thought he meant it like a question not some phrase or whatever like thats the way the cookie crumbles lol. but he backtracks and acted like he didnt say that. then Luisa tells him he did but he goes oh i said is it about Frank Carson's dressing room. knowing what the incident was about i dont think he should of went there.

Yeah, i noticed that aswell

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by Livia

Linda's been picking on him since they went in, she's a pain in the arse.

Originally Posted by Livia

This thread should be called Luisa is **** stirring cow.

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Well hes shown his true colours tonight, what a dirty rotten ,lowlife bastard he is, Lindas husband cannot defend himself, Im fuming ,that poor cow ,no need for that whatsoever

Chuff he didn't actually mention her dead husband at all! Linda did. And he WAS convicted of stealing from Frank Carson's dressing room & Jim only brought it up as he was trying to explain why he thinks Linda hates him so much, because Jim was the person who reported the theft from the police! Linda was the one who wnet totally over the top...

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Slevin

he did say to Luisa you should ask her. ask her about Frank Carson's dressing room. like her i thought he was genuinely telling her to really ask. i thought he meant it like a question not some phrase or whatever like thats the way the cookie crumbles lol. but he backtracks and acted like he didnt say that. then Luisa tells him he did but he goes oh i said is it about Frank Carson's dressing room. knowing what the incident was about i dont think he should of went there.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Slevin

he did say to Luisa you should ask her. ask her about Frank Carson's dressing room. like her i thought he was genuinely telling her to really ask. i thought he meant it like a question not some phrase or whatever like thats the way the cookie crumbles lol. but he backtracks and acted like he didnt say that. then Luisa tells him he did but he goes oh i said is it about Frank Carson's dressing room. knowing what the incident was about i dont think he should of went there.

Then he walks into the bedroom and goes to Linda "Before I go in and talk to BB would you like to tell me what you are insinuating" - when HE was the one doing the insinuating. Sick pathetic man.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

100% agree ann, he's a vicious pugnacious alcoholic. What he did was shocking and he should be ashamed, has it been posted what he was referring to?
He knew it would hurt her and cause a massive reaction, so he could act calm and accuse linda of being a hysterical female.
What a disgusting 'man'.

He knew also the viewers who knew nothing of what happened would be googling it,so he thought he had the right to tell everyone something a man who has died and cannot defend himself did 20 years ago, and not even to HIM ,just to humiliate his widow on national Tv ?scum of the earth

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by parmnion

he did say that, but he didn't mean for her to ask linda. He just got his words muddled up, just like linda did cause for about an hour I thought she was actually married to Frank Carson!!

Even if Luisa hadnt told Linda ,he still told US

[Patricia4]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Jim didn't bring up her hubby she did. He opened a wound and she bled the details so don't blame Jim. All she needed to say was, I don't know what you mean, but no, she brought her hubby into it. It was linda that opened that door, jim only put the key in it.

Thanks for that sampvt Ive just asked somewhere about Jim talking about Linda's husband because I only heard about the dressing room.
It was Linda that set this up I knew and most people are listening to Linda and picking on Jim.

[Patricia4]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Sams there is never a reason to justify what Jim did tonight ,Im off before I get banned ,my sister died 3 yrs ago if ever anyone said one word about her ,esp now shes not here to defend herself I would do time for it

Chuff he never mentioned anything to do with her husband it was her that fetched it up.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Patricia4

Thanks for that sampvt Ive just asked somewhere about Jim talking about Linda's husband because I only heard about the dressing room.
It was Linda that set this up I knew and most people are listening to Linda and picking on Jim.

[joeysteele]

he is hardly a coward, he knew once it was kicking off that he maybe could have said things better.
He was happy to discuss it more with her, she didn't want to, he asked to talk to her, she refused, he asked her why did she hate him so much, she wouldn't answer.
Then today he has apologised despite her not making any moves to calm things down herself.
All that is far from the actions of a coward, a coward goes and hides away not go and seek to get answers.

Actually she is the one acting like a coward, playing a victim role while not daring to say why she is so against him personally and why she is carrying that hate on while they are housemates too.
While also making sure she has others around her try to intimidate and make him look bad
They are more like cowardly actions, big when others are there, far more silent when they are not.

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

he is hardly a coward, he knew once it was kicking off that he maybe could have said things better.
He was happy to discuss it more with her, she didn't want to, he asked to talk to her, she refused, he asked her why did she hate him so much, she wouldn't answer.
Then today he has apologised despite her not making any moves to calm things down herself.
All that is far from the actions of a coward, a coward goes and hides away not go and seek to get answers.

Actually she is the one acting like a coward, playing a victim role while not daring to say why she is so against him personally and why she is carrying that hate on while they are housemates too.
While also making sure she has others around her try to intimidate and make him look bad
They are more like cowardly actions, big when others are there, far more silent when they are not.

Another brilliant post

[jet]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

I agree, I cant see why the British Public can be so naïve and fooled by him. Hes the type of person who can sit there and do nothing and still make you feel uncomfortable because you know how his mind works.

He starts fights with little comments, a housemate bites back and then he walks away telling them they are crazy or turns it around to make them look bad.

Last night he lied and backtracked, its the only argument he couldn't get out of and you could see it in his eyes that he was ****ting himself knowing what he had done was way below the belt. You don't bring up the dead, simple as that. Obviously she feels hurt its like hes made her husband look like a fool to millions of people.

That's the man she loved so she is going to be very angry and defensive.

[jet]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Jim didn't bring up her hubby she did. He opened a wound and she bled the details so don't blame Jim. All she needed to say was, I don't know what you mean, but no, she brought her hubby into it. It was linda that opened that door, jim only put the key in it.

Jim's very good at putting the key in it then using denial, lies and manipulation to try to hide the key.

[Bojangles]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

Another brilliant post

So true.

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by jet

Jim's very good at putting the key in it then using denial, lies and manipulation to try to hide the key.

And Linda is very clever at making Jim come out & say about the incident, with her constant goading of him, then twisting it round to make out Jim is the bad guy, when her dead husband was a tealeaf! She knew she would get loads of sympathy & it would make Jim look bad...

[lime]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

And Linda is very clever at making Jim come out & say about the incident, with her constant goading of him, then twisting it round to make out Jim is the bad guy, when her dead husband was a tealeaf! She knew she would get loads of sympathy & it would make Jim look bad...

Linda was in bed ..How do you come to the conclusion that she made Jim tell others to ask her what had happened in the dressing room?They had a row ..it was over .He just couldn't resist being a spiteful coward.

[jet]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

And Linda is very clever at making Jim come out & say about the incident, with her constant goading of him, then twisting it round to make out Jim is the bad guy, when her dead husband was a tealeaf! She knew she would get loads of sympathy & it would make Jim look bad...

I disagree. Jim makes himself look bad.

[jet]

Originally Posted by lime

Linda was in bed ..How do you come to the conclusion that she made Jim tell others to ask her what had happened in the dressing room?They had a row ..it was over .He just couldn't resist being a spiteful coward.

Exactly. Nobody can make anyone do something they don't want to do.