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That said I dont find that many people 'ugly' tbh, ok the lot on Jeremy Kyle fair enough but in everyday life whom I come across not really. Sure Id class many as 'not attractive' but not necessarily 'ugly'.

I dont know. I just find that adjective quite cruel so avoid using it.

I got called ugly and wouldnt find a gf about a year ago, by a drunk mate, and I was genuinely not impressed at all I found it very offensive had a go at the ****er. 'fat' meh, thats objective, but 'ugliness' and 'attractiveness' is very subjective and more personal, I find. I have since continued to lose weight, got some nice clothes for nights out etc., started geling my hair now and then... Im far from vain but I just take care of myself a little more and well I wouldnt class myself as attractive but ugly nah.

Anyway this mate liked this girl who flirted with me when I visted some of them at uni not too long ago, I was impressed then

But Im one who feels uncomfortable when people talk about celebrities being 'fit' and wishing 'all lads looked like X' etc. etc. Makes me feel not very, um, comfortable with myself I guess.

Bit off topic, but wanting to expand my opinion on attractiveness