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"In shocking CCTV footage, the young family can be seen walking through the shopping centre in Derby, East Midlands. At one point (far left), the unnamed mother walks very slightly ahead of her child - and seconds later a man wearing a dark jacket and a cap appears. He then approaches the 22-month-old (second left) as the child follows his mother into a store. The man then appears to try and persuade the child to walk off with him (second right). But the unnamed mother turns around (right) and challenges the man, who then seems to apologise and walk off. Police are now appealing for witnesses to this shocking incident - which took place on Thursday morning."




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I suppose he *may* have thought the child was lost but it doesn't really look like that, does it? Clearly the woman near the child had an empty buggy so most people would see the child was hers, also he was quick to try and lead him away without looking around for who he belonged to. Scary, it can happen so quick
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Scary stuff.

Looks like he handed himself in though maybe thought the child was lost? although it seems unlikely since the mother was so close hmmmm.
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Perhaps he was concerned at seeing a child that young on his own.

He comes from the age when people gave a damn.


Hubby was washing the car on the front drive, toddler appears over the road, (busy road) nobody else in sight, albeit for only seconds hubby keeps an eye on toddler as the mother appears from around the bend.
The looks she gave him said everything, it was pretty obvious she thought he was up to no good. Sad world we live in.
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Few weeks back the Mail was saying how shameful society is these days that most people wouldn't help a child they thought was lost in a shopping centre, well this is why. There's no real proof there's anything sinister here, the bloke could very easily just have been a concerned citizen. The fact he volunteered himself to police straight away and that the Police officer also says "it appears that the man shown in the CCTV footage may have been acting with good intentions" would back this up. Yet now he's splashed all over the internet and being immediately made out as a child abductor.

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Few weeks back the Mail was saying how shameful society is these days that most people wouldn't help a child they thought was lost in a shopping centre, well this is the why. There's no real proof there's anything sinister here, the bloke could very easily just have been a concerned citizen. The fact he volunteered himself to police straight away and that the Police officer also says "it appears that the man shown in the CCTV footage may have been acting with good intentions" would back this up. Yet now he's splashed all over the internet and being immediately made out as a child abductor.
Was just going to say something similar to this. With all the highly publicised cases I'm sure a lot of men would feel uncomfortable going up to a child if they thought they were lost. And the way pictures like this spread over facebook and twitter too with people putting the boot in. Someone could be there with their camera phone and assume the wrong thing then it's trending in seconds and the witch hunt begins.
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Yes you see how the maccan child would have been taken the next day or the next on the beach or in a shop
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Yes you see how the maccan child would have been taken the next day or the next on the beach or in a shop
Not necessarily, the mother in that video saw what was happening, didn't she? Really, really not comparable anyway, a child getting taken like that when you take your eyes off them for a couple of minutes and actually leaving your child alone at night in an unlocked apartment in a foreign country while you go off drinking with your friends.
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never understand why so many parents let their kids lag behind them in public
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Not necessarily, the mother in that video saw what was happening, didn't she? Really, really not comparable anyway, a child getting taken like that when you take your eyes off them for a couple of minutes and actually leaving your child alone at night in an unlocked apartment in a foreign country while you go off drinking with your friends.
it can happen in a second. if that man had been a paedo he would have had that child quicker.
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It can, you're right, that doesn't mean it's a similar situation to actually neglecting your children by doing what the McCanns did
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This incident is open to interpretation, from what we can see we do not know the intent in this person's mind.

Maybe he was genuinely concerned for the child's welfare and was trying to help.

Or perhaps he was an opportunist Paedophile ?
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Persistent, I will give you that. But unfortunately not even slightly comparable.
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never understand why so many parents let their kids lag behind them in public
This.
I mean I understand that things can happen so quickly but especially when you're with such a young kid under 2.

Whenever I was with my brothers/nephews at that age I wouldn't let go of their hand when we were out in public.
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Persistent, I will give you that. But unfortunately not even slightly comparable.
In both instances you need a predatory paedophile. The Mccanns could have left their child in thousands of resorts in hundreds of countries with safety.
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In both instances you need a predatory paedophile. The Mccanns could have left their child in thousands of resorts in hundreds of countries with safety.
So leaving them all alone as an easy target makes it all right?
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In both instances you need a predatory paedophile. The Mccanns could have left their child in thousands of resorts in hundreds of countries with safety.
Except the latest (ridiculous) line is that it was a burglar/s..not a paedophile that took her. A burglar that ignored the valuables in the apartment and took a child instead.
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Except the latest (ridiculous) line is that it was a burglar/s..not a paedophile that took her. A burglar that ignored the valuables in the apartment and took a child instead.
I would suggest that this is unlikely
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I would suggest that this is unlikely
As are most of the media/mets theorys.

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Few weeks back the Mail was saying how shameful society is these days that most people wouldn't help a child they thought was lost in a shopping centre, well this is why. There's no real proof there's anything sinister here, the bloke could very easily just have been a concerned citizen. The fact he volunteered himself to police straight away and that the Police officer also says "it appears that the man shown in the CCTV footage may have been acting with good intentions" would back this up. Yet now he's splashed all over the internet and being immediately made out as a child abductor.
I don't know..if he was a concerned citizen you would expect him to speak to the child and ask if they were lost or something surely, rather than just lead them away (quickly) in the opposite direction to his mother?

Mind the mother should be keeping a much better eye on her child.
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In both instances you need a predatory paedophile. The Mccanns could have left their child in thousands of resorts in hundreds of countries with safety.
So by that logic, this would also be right: A mother leaves her 2 year old alone at night while she goes out drinking, a fire starts and the child is killed, it's not the mothers fault cos she didn't start the fire?
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