[Josy]

Originally Posted by kefln

You could also say, Ash was saved despite his spiteful streak, bitching, smugness and miserable personality.

The difference being Ash never conjured up a plan to get rid of anyone and brag in the DR about it?

He also doesn't sit bitching on tv constantly.

[kefln]

Originally Posted by Josy

The difference being Ash never conjured up a plan to get rid of anyone and brag in the DR about it?

He also doesn't sit bitching on tv constantly.

All Ash does is make snide, somewhat derogatory, sometimes outright nasty comments.

Ashleighs "plan" was retaliation against a vapid individual.

Her "mistake" was not sugar coating it. She didn't hide her dislike. She was very direct in her opinion.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by kefln

All Ash does is make snide, somewhat derogatory, sometimes outright nasty comments.

Ashleighs "plan" was retaliation against a vapid individual.

Her "mistake" was not sugar coating it. She didn't hide her dislike. She was very direct in her opinion.

I disagree with this, Ash is showing plenty just having normal conversations.

Ashleigh on the other hand isn't, every time she is on screen she bitches and not just about Helen (this vapid person you mention) Jale, Kim, Ash, Marlon, Winston have all came under attack from her.

Her 'mistake' was getting too smug and revealing too much of her spiteful personality.

[kefln]

Originally Posted by Josy

I disagree with this, Ash is showing plenty just having normal conversations.

Ashleigh on the other hand isn't, every time she is on screen she bitches and not just about Helen (this vapid person you mention) Jale, Kim, Ash, Marlon, Winston have all came under attack from her.

Her 'mistake' was getting too smug and revealing too much of her spiteful personality.

Normal conversations about how there are no real slags in the house, can't remember the word used. Or that wonder conversation on how Jale diving would leave no water in the pool.

What does that say about his personality?

And do you really what a bitching comparison?

Chris and Matthew have both called the rest of the house idiots.

Helen/Ash/Marlon have bitched about Ashleigh, Danielle, Chris, Christopher, Jale, Toya...

Danielle has bitched about Ash, Kim, Jale, Chris...actually pretty much everyone...apart from maybe Mark - who she believes shouldn't be allowed to get married.

I coul go on, but the list is extensive, because they are all at it.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by kefln

Normal conversations about how there are no real slags in the house, can't remember the word used. Or that wonder conversation on how Jale diving would leave no water in the pool.

What does that say about his personality?

And do you really what a bitching comparison?

Chris and Matthew have both called the rest of the house idiots.

Helen/Ash/Marlon have bitched about Ashleigh, Danielle, Chris, Christopher, Jale, Toya...

Danielle has bitched about Ash, Kim, Jale, Chris...actually pretty much everyone...apart from maybe Mark - who she believes shouldn't be allowed to get married.

I coul go on, but the list is extensive, because they are all at it.

I am not denying they are all at it, it happens but most of them don't do it constantly.

Ash has said the thing about there being no sluts in the house once btw.

None of this changes the fact that Ashleigh bitches constant, it's actually non stop (from what we have been shown) that's why a lot of the public dislike her and that added to her sneaky 'plan' is one of the reasons Matthew was voted out...

[kefln]

Originally Posted by Josy

I am not denying they are all at it, it happens but most of them don't do it constantly.

Ash has said the thing about there being no sluts in the house once btw.

None of this changes the fact that Ashleigh bitches constant, it's actually non stop (from what we have been shown) that's why a lot of the public dislike her and that added to her sneaky 'plan' is one of the reasons Matthew was voted out...

Isnt that the point? What we've seen?

If they are editing the HLS to show us the "worst", or more controversial parts, then there could be entire days of Ashleigh smiling, Ash being a gent and Helen being a mother figure.

But we aren't seeing that.

If we are seeing the "worst" then Ashleigh worst parts aren't all that bad, but Ashs are truly horrible. Because the worst you can say about her is that shes a bitch. The worst you can say about him is that he's a total b**t**d...

[Josy]

Originally Posted by kefln

Isnt that the point? What we've seen?

If they are editing the HLS to show us the "worst", or more controversial parts, then there could be entire days of Ashleigh smiling, Ash being a gent and Helen being a mother figure.

But we aren't seeing that.

If we are seeing the "worst" then Ashleigh worst parts aren't all that bad, but Ashs are truly horrible. Because the worst you can say about her is that shes a bitch. The worst you can say about him is that he's a total b**t**d...

A total bastard? I thinks that a very OTT reaction to some comments to Jale which he apologised for but that's just my opinion.

And I personally think Ashleighs worst parts are bad.

[Moosething]

Originally Posted by Josy

I disagree with this, Ash is showing plenty just having normal conversations.

Ashleigh on the other hand isn't, every time she is on screen she bitches and not just about Helen (this vapid person you mention) Jale, Kim, Ash, Marlon, Winston have all came under attack from her.

Her 'mistake' was getting too smug and revealing too much of her spiteful personality.

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