[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by jet

The majority of the public obviously like that sort of behaviour and want those people to triumph, as they have clearly shown, unfortunately. It depends very much on personal standards and morals, I suppose.

If it was a vote to save and Ash was saved first, then your claim would make sense. But it was a vote to evict and almost as many people wanted Ash out as did Matt.

So the behavior of both Matt & Ash was the most disliked by the viewers.

[jet]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

If it was a vote to save and Ash was saved first, then your claim would make sense. But it was a vote to evict and almost as many people wanted Ash out as did Matt.

So the behavior of both Matt & Ash was the most disliked by the viewers.

Ash was far and away the fave to go with the bookies and all the forum polls. Matthew was nowhere near. The public voted Matthew to spite Ashleigh and showed that they preferred the cliques behaviour as described in the posts above more than they preferred a girl with morals.
I'd say there was a huge push by a contingent of the public near the finishing post to keep Ash in. Their pockets must feel a lot lighter today. lol

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by jet

Ash was far and away the fave to go with the bookies and all the forum polls. Matthew was nowhere near. The public voted Matthew to spite Ashleigh and showed that they preferred the cliques behaviour as described in the posts above more than they preferred a girl with morals.

That is possible, I don't know why everyone voted. But there are other possibilities.

The polls were flooded with votes against Ash on the first day noms were announced, that is a great representation of who would go on that day. But the eps that followed, showed Matt to be pretty dislikeable, while Ash faded into the background (always a smart tactic to stay in BB).

I recall posting in a thread, the topic was about how one sided one of the polls was, I said something like, there is many a slip between the cup and the lip, and that Ash wasn't gone yet. Not I that thought he would stay, it was just I figured that it wasn't as much a foregone result as it seemed.

Anyway my point is that it wasn't an either or choice, someone who voted to evict Matt, it doesn't mean they supported Ash, or that they want him to stay. Matt behavior in the eyes of the voters was slightly worse than Ash on the week they were both up.

Or if the voters did see it as one of Helen's team facing off against one of Ashleigh's. Then the same also applies, Ashleigh's behavior was worse than Helen's on this week. I think looking back, that's pretty clear to see now.

[jet]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

That is possible, I don't know why everyone voted. But there are other possibilities.

The polls were flooded with votes against Ash on the first day noms were announced, that is a great representation of who would go on that day. But the eps that followed, showed Matt to be pretty dislikeable, while Ash faded into the background (always a smart tactic to stay in BB).

I recall posting in a thread, the topic was about how one sided one of the polls was, I said something like, there is many a slip between the cup and the lip, and that Ash wasn't gone yet. Not I that thought he would stay, it was just I figured that it wasn't as much a foregone result as it seemed.

Anyway my point is that it wasn't an either or choice, someone who voted to evict Matt, it doesn't mean they supported Ash, or that they want him to stay. Matt behavior in the eyes of the voters was slightly worse than Ash on the week they were both up.

Or if the voters did see it as one of Helen's team facing off against one of Ashleigh's. Then the same also applies, Ashleigh's behavior was worse than Helen's on this week. I think looking back, that's pretty clear to see now.

I respect your take on things (we all see things differently) but I don't think Matthew was unlikable at all. In fact, many people loved the relationship he had with the peoples fave Mark and the banter between them.

We seen Chris saying how Matthew was great, how funny he was but his humour might be taken the wrong way until you get to understand him. Which should have showed the public that he could get interesting and deserved a chance.

....Cut to Ash arrogantly saying it would be a mistake for people to vote him out and the lads all were sitting around saying girls wanted to see bare chested good looking men an how Matthew didn't qualify. I see nothing likable there, just arrogance and vanity.

I didn't see Helen as likeable this week at all. She was still bitching and making snidey faces and complaining about Jale and Kim leaving her out and having a bath together, as if they have to ask her permission. The only reason she's keeping a lid on it is because she got warned.

I hold to my opinion that a certain contingent wanted Ash saved at all costs to spite Ashleigh (look at how many are gloating at the 'look on hr face'). And their push in the latter stages of voting achieved this.