[kefln]

Originally Posted by Josy

I am not denying they are all at it, it happens but most of them don't do it constantly.

Ash has said the thing about there being no sluts in the house once btw.

None of this changes the fact that Ashleigh bitches constant, it's actually non stop (from what we have been shown) that's why a lot of the public dislike her and that added to her sneaky 'plan' is one of the reasons Matthew was voted out...

Isnt that the point? What we've seen?

If they are editing the HLS to show us the "worst", or more controversial parts, then there could be entire days of Ashleigh smiling, Ash being a gent and Helen being a mother figure.

But we aren't seeing that.

If we are seeing the "worst" then Ashleigh worst parts aren't all that bad, but Ashs are truly horrible. Because the worst you can say about her is that shes a bitch. The worst you can say about him is that he's a total b**t**d...

[Josy]

Originally Posted by kefln

Isnt that the point? What we've seen?

If they are editing the HLS to show us the "worst", or more controversial parts, then there could be entire days of Ashleigh smiling, Ash being a gent and Helen being a mother figure.

But we aren't seeing that.

If we are seeing the "worst" then Ashleigh worst parts aren't all that bad, but Ashs are truly horrible. Because the worst you can say about her is that shes a bitch. The worst you can say about him is that he's a total b**t**d...

A total bastard? I thinks that a very OTT reaction to some comments to Jale which he apologised for but that's just my opinion.

And I personally think Ashleighs worst parts are bad.

[kefln]

Originally Posted by Josy

A total bastard? I thinks that a very OTT reaction to some comments to Jale which he apologised for but that's just my opinion.

And I personally think Ashleighs worst parts are bad.

And I personally beleive that its an OTT reaction for people to dislike Ashleigh for mild bitching.

While I do believe that mocking people for their weight, insulting people to their face with distrubing images, discussing female HMs in derogatory ways and laughing while others hurl insults, makes for a very unpleasant individual.

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by kefln

And I personally beleive that its an OTT reaction for people to dislike Ashleigh for mild bitching.

While I do believe that mocking people for their weight, insulting people to their face with distrubing images, discussing female HMs in derogatory ways and laughing while others hurl insults, makes for a very unpleasant individual.

I didn't like her when she was just being a boring bitch. When she turned evil I started to like her more. I think it's when she is with Danielle I don't the pair of them being boring bitches in their dressing gowns. When she is by herself acting evil like in diary room or at the party, she becomes very attractive in a sexy femme fatale type of way.

[jet]

Originally Posted by kefln

And I personally beleive that its an OTT reaction for people to dislike Ashleigh for mild bitching.

While I do believe that mocking people for their weight, insulting people to their face with distrubing images, discussing female HMs in derogatory ways and laughing while others hurl insults, makes for a very unpleasant individual.

The majority of the public obviously like that sort of behaviour and want those people to triumph, as they have clearly shown, unfortunately. It depends very much on personal standards and morals, I suppose.

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by jet

The majority of the public obviously like that sort of behaviour and want those people to triumph, as they have clearly shown, unfortunately. It depends very much on personal standards and morals, I suppose.

If it was a vote to save and Ash was saved first, then your claim would make sense. But it was a vote to evict and almost as many people wanted Ash out as did Matt.

So the behavior of both Matt & Ash was the most disliked by the viewers.

[jet]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

If it was a vote to save and Ash was saved first, then your claim would make sense. But it was a vote to evict and almost as many people wanted Ash out as did Matt.

So the behavior of both Matt & Ash was the most disliked by the viewers.

Ash was far and away the fave to go with the bookies and all the forum polls. Matthew was nowhere near. The public voted Matthew to spite Ashleigh and showed that they preferred the cliques behaviour as described in the posts above more than they preferred a girl with morals.
I'd say there was a huge push by a contingent of the public near the finishing post to keep Ash in. Their pockets must feel a lot lighter today. lol

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by jet

Ash was far and away the fave to go with the bookies and all the forum polls. Matthew was nowhere near. The public voted Matthew to spite Ashleigh and showed that they preferred the cliques behaviour as described in the posts above more than they preferred a girl with morals.

That is possible, I don't know why everyone voted. But there are other possibilities.

The polls were flooded with votes against Ash on the first day noms were announced, that is a great representation of who would go on that day. But the eps that followed, showed Matt to be pretty dislikeable, while Ash faded into the background (always a smart tactic to stay in BB).

I recall posting in a thread, the topic was about how one sided one of the polls was, I said something like, there is many a slip between the cup and the lip, and that Ash wasn't gone yet. Not I that thought he would stay, it was just I figured that it wasn't as much a foregone result as it seemed.

Anyway my point is that it wasn't an either or choice, someone who voted to evict Matt, it doesn't mean they supported Ash, or that they want him to stay. Matt behavior in the eyes of the voters was slightly worse than Ash on the week they were both up.

Or if the voters did see it as one of Helen's team facing off against one of Ashleigh's. Then the same also applies, Ashleigh's behavior was worse than Helen's on this week. I think looking back, that's pretty clear to see now.