[jet]

Ashleigh gets criticized on this forum as much as Helen does.
Helen is a nasty piece of work so that is understandable.
Ashleigh is a strong, smart girl who is a big threat to peoples faves so that is understandable.
Those who champion Helen are fewer but more vocal as Ashleigh is amazing and they have to dig deep to find fault.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by jet

Ashleigh gets criticized on this forum as much as Helen does.
Helen is a nasty piece of work so that is understandable.
Ashleigh is a strong, smart girl who is a big threat to peoples faves so that is understandable.
Those who champion Helen are fewer but more vocal as Ashleigh is amazing and they have to dig deep to find fault.

Ashleigh would be fine if people admitted she has faults,they don't ,simple as.That is a big reason I went off her all the totally ott stuff,it's kinda childish,afterall ,they don't give a toss about us,not even Ashleigh

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Ashleigh would be fine if people admitted she has faults,they don't ,simple as.That is a big reason I went off her all the totally ott stuff,it's kinda childish,afterall ,they don't give a toss about us,not even Ashleigh

This ^^

[jet]

If people would stop making excuses for Helen like 'she says it to your face' and 'she's had a hard life' as if that excuses her nastiness and bullying but go after Ashleigh and make baiting derogatory comments about her for the slightest thing, maybe she (Helen) wouldn't seem as bad.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by jet

If people would stop making excuses for Helen like 'she says it to your face' and 'she's had a hard life' as if that excuses her nastiness and bullying but go after Ashleigh and make baiting derogatory comments about her for the slightest thing, maybe she (Helen) wouldn't seem as bad.

If I have to read that bull**** excuse one more time I'm going to claw my eyes out.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by MrWong

If I have to read that bull**** excuse one more time I'm going to claw my eyes out.

Well I for one have never said that and cant say I've seen it on here,maybe a missed a couple of posts

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Well I for one have never said that and cant say I've seen it on here,maybe a missed a couple of posts

It's been used a number of times on here.

It's surprising that you've missed it since you applaud pretty much every post that defends Helen

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Ashleigh would be fine if people admitted she has faults,they don't ,simple as.That is a big reason I went off her all the totally ott stuff,it's kinda childish,afterall ,they don't give a toss about us,not even Ashleigh

childish? what show you watching

[Rustic bauble]

[QUOTE=Kazanne;7107227]Ashleigh would be fine if people admitted she has faults,they don't ,simple as.


Are you saying you don't like Ashleigh because her fans don't see or admitted her faults?
I wish Ashleigh had stood up and told her to her face...I wish housemates including Ashleigh would have stood up to Helen when she was being abusive to people. However as I have said Helen is so vile when she argues..she attacks,insults and won't let people defend themselves...maybe that's why people have just avoided any sort of confrontation.

[Kazanne]

[QUOTE=rusticgal;7107382]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Ashleigh would be fine if people admitted she has faults,they don't ,simple as.


Are you saying you don't like Ashleigh because her fans don't see or admitted her faults?
I wish Ashleigh had stood up and told her to her face...I wish housemates including Ashleigh would have stood up to Helen when she was being abusive to people. However as I have said Helen is so vile when she argues..she attacks,insults and won't let people defend themselves...maybe that's why people have just avoided any sort of confrontation.

I cant really say what has turned me off Ashleigh,lol as I would get an infraction,easiest way I can say it is,SOME people are way ott with it all,you say Helen is vile ,ok then,but are people not just as vile with some of their comments? People are vile when they argue,they shout they say nasty things,that's what an argument is,doesn't mean you mean every word you say,it's anger,pure and simple,you can call Helen vile,but not ashleigh when she slinks behind her teddy and calls people names? I don't get that logic,imo ,none of them are 'vile' one is a gob****e,the other is devious,that's how I see it.