[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Ashleigh never pretended to be Helens friend....Ashleigh disliked everything about her. Helen only confronted Ashleigh after she saw the footage of Ashleigh...when she had reason to. Ashleigh didn't have any reason to confront Helen and tell her what she thought of her...she bitched about Helens behaviour towards other housemates and her nasty controversial attitude. Helen was just waiting for a reason to confront Ashleigh and she got it...
You can't just go up to someone and say what you think of them.. You wait for the opportunity when you yourself are the subject of that behaviour. When Helen got her opportunity Ashleigh fought back...she told her what she thought...it was very intimidating for Ashleigh because she was surrounded by a pack of wolves...and as per usual Helen talked over her and just mouthed off.

For weeks now Ashleigh has told us over and over that she's going to confront Helen,still waiting

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Ashleigh never pretended to be Helens friend....Ashleigh disliked everything about her. Helen only confronted Ashleigh after she saw the footage of Ashleigh...when she had reason to. Ashleigh didn't have any reason to confront Helen and tell her what she thought of her...she bitched about Helens behaviour towards other housemates and her nasty controversial attitude. Helen was just waiting for a reason to confront Ashleigh and she got it...
You can't just go up to someone and say what you think of them.. You wait for the opportunity when you yourself are the subject of that behaviour. When Helen got her opportunity Ashleigh fought back...she told her what she thought...it was very intimidating for Ashleigh because she was surrounded by a pack of wolves...and as per usual Helen talked over her and just mouthed off.

Guess who this thread isn't about?..

You cannot justify one persons bad attitude and in the same breath condemn anothers.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Remember the 'one word' story episode?... or her having a meltdown at christopher when she was 'tired'?

The one where she threatened to smash his head into the mirror and she called him a dick as he walked away ?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

The one where she threatened to smash his head into the mirror and she called him a dick as he walked away ?

Oh don't you know Chuff friends say that sort of thing to each other,unless of course your name is Helen!!

[Samm]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Remember the 'one word' story episode?... or her having a meltdown at christopher when she was 'tired'?

Christopher is so ****ing annoying and says the same thing all the time so it was right for Ashleigh, Christopher isn't that much of a friend to Ashleigh as toya, dani and Chris are anyways

[Samm]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

The one where she threatened to smash his head into the mirror and she called him a dick as he walked away ?

Do you know what it's like in the house... no you don't so I would think that most people here would have an argument and get angry in that environment

Christopher is a dick so it doesn't matter

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Oh don't you know Chuff friends say that sort of thing to each other,unless of course your name is Helen!!

Yes I read it somewhere on here that friends,family do it all the time, not in my house they don't !! how can anyone excuse this type of behaviour ?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by ~Sam~

Do you know what it's like in the house... no you don't so I would think that most people here would have an argument and get angry in that environment

Christopher is a dick so it doesn't matter

And neither do you sunbeam

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by ~Sam~

Christopher is so ****ing annoying and says the same thing all the time so it was right for Ashleigh, Christopher isn't that much of a friend to Ashleigh as toya, dani and Chris are anyways

No he isn't, he was making polite conversation with his friends and she attacked him, stop trying to justify it .

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

No he isn't, he was making polite conversation with his friends and she attacked him, stop trying to justify it .

Exactly Kizzy,no mistaking her nastiness there

[jet]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

The one where she threatened to smash his head into the mirror and she called him a dick as he walked away ?

After last night, we know why.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jet

After last night, we know why.

No we don't know why... He was enjoying himself having a good time.
It's interesting the justification some HMs get for their nastiness.

[Creggle]

Looked like banter to me... Chris' reaction confirms this.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by the truth

the task with the wild animals and chris has to splash her , shes all attitude and her usual sour pussed scorn........cant she ever just have fun and stop being so mean all the time? worse to follow hes told to lick her ears, she not only gets defensive she gets nasty and personal about how its the last thing on earth shed ever want or allow to happen.....she doesnt do it with lightness of touch nor does she spare chris' feelings....shes unpleasant

It was edited that way the full length video is on dailymotion and it shows how they were both very uncomfortable.

Stop being so gullible to the edit.

[poppsywoppsy]

It brings me back to the video of Helens and Ashleigh's argument. Ashleigh was saying "Get over yourself" to Helen on the programme where on the uncut video Ashleigh absolutely gave Helen as good as she got and more, so saying Ashleigh didn't say anything to Helen is totally wrong, we didn't get to see it on the programme.

Same with Christopher and Mark, we only get to see what the producers want us to.

Why those who dislike Ashleigh want her to be seemingly perfect so they can slate her when she is merely being the same as every other housemate, seems quite contrary to me.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

It brings me back to the video of Helens and Ashleigh's argument. Ashleigh was saying "Get over yourself" to Helen on the programme where on the uncut video Ashleigh absolutely gave Helen as good as she got and more, so saying Ashleigh didn't say anything to Helen is totally wrong, we didn't get to see it on the programme.

Same with Christopher and Mark, we only get to see what the producers want us to.

Why those who dislike Ashleigh want her to be seemingly perfect so they can slate her when she is merely being the same as every other housemate, seems quite contrary to me.

I don't know why people don't watch the youtube videos its an extra 40 odd minutes of footage most days and shows all the fun stuff and uncut important conversations which look totally different on the highlights.

If people are going to make an argument or an Ashleigh hate thread then they need to look at all the facts not just base their opinion on the highlights edit which 3 of todays top threads have done.

Its getting boring now.

[Nell_McCoy]

They don't need to watch the videos, Ashleigh has committed the grave sin of being young, pretty and blonde. That is enough for some people to actually despise her. They are to be pitied.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Nell_McCoy

They don't need to watch the videos, Ashleigh has committed the grave sin of being young, pretty and blonde. That is enough for some people to actually despise her. They are to be pitied.

Don't be ridiculous, if that's true how on Earth did Sophie Reed ever manage to win? (I'm a fan of Ashleighs by the way but this argument really annoys me)

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Nell_McCoy

They don't need to watch the videos, Ashleigh has committed the grave sin of being young, pretty and blonde. That is enough for some people to actually despise her. They are to be pitied.

Actually it's posts like this that make me dislike her,so carry on

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Actually it's posts like this that make me dislike her,so carry on

It shouldn't do, Ashleigh didn't post it

[mrflibble]

Why is it that if people hate Ashleigh it's because of her looks and age and if people like Ashleigh it's because of her looks and age? I don't care if she's a beautiful young girl or a haggard old lady, I like her because I find her entertaining, funny and strong. People who dislike her dislike her because they don't. I'm sure some people like or dislike some housemates because of their looks, but I don't think it speaks for the majority of fans or detractors.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It shouldn't do, Ashleigh didn't post it

but it's off putting Niamh

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by mrflibble

Why is it that if people hate Ashleigh it's because of her looks and age and if people like Ashleigh it's because of her looks and age? I don't care if she's a beautiful young girl or a haggard old lady, I like her because I find her entertaining, funny and strong. People who dislike her dislike her because they don't. I'm sure some people like or dislike some housemates because of their looks, but I don't think it speaks for the majority of fans or detractors.

Exactly. HMs never, imo, win or lose or are popular or unpopular because of how they look. If that were the case all the winners would either be really good looking guys or fat, ugly girls.....(I say this because it is apparently mostly women who vote?)

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It shouldn't do, Ashleigh didn't post it

But it does Niamh

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

But it does Niamh

How can what someone completely unrelated to Ashleigh posts make you dislike Ashleigh? That's a bit unfair to her but whatever if that's how you base your opinions on HMs