[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Achilles

Ashleigh is a big fundraiser for a re-homing centre for cats and dogs due to her love of animals. If she won she WILL be donating to charity. She is a good egg.

Helen scoffs at the idea of giving £1k to charity. She is a rotten egg.

oh STOP ramming your obsession down our throats!!! Some of us think she is vile, deal with it

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Correct me if I am wrong, but are people seriously saying that Ashleigh doesn't deserve to get an aggression warning because she allegedly supports an animal charity?

Statements along those lines are going to decrease Ashleigh's chance of winning, not increase them - just saying

Bloody well said , bravo

[Kizzy]

It wasn't a warning was it it was just a chat to make her aware of how her words could be perceived is all.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It wasn't a warning was it it was just a chat to make her aware of how her words could be perceived is all.

I wonder why it jumped from caution (the Jale bullying) to final warning (the threatening behaviour towards Matthew).

There must have been warnings in between the two that haven't been shown.

[lime]

How do people know Asleigh didn't get a warning.She should of had one btw but I think the first one we seen Helen recieveing was her 15th,so they obviously don't show us all the warnings.

[bots]

Originally Posted by lime

How do people know Asleigh didn't get a warning.She should of had one btw but I think the first one we seen Helen recieveing was her 15th,so they obviously don't show us all the warnings.

Its only formal warnings that are significant, as it is those that will ultimately result in someone being ejected from the house. Any number of hm's could have received unofficial warnings/chats about their behaviour

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Pathetic, its not as if she went up in Ashleighs face and said it. It was in a heated conversation with another housemate.

[Parmy]

Helen still a **** I see.

[kefln]

ROTFLMAO

Helen gets another warning for being a nasty individual, people spend most of their time talking about Ashleigh.

Says alot if you can't defend someone on their own merits. The blame has to shoveled off to BB, the producers, Ashleigh, everyone but Helen herself...

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by kefln

ROTFLMAO

Helen gets another warning for being a nasty individual, people spend most of their time talking about Ashleigh.

Says alot if you can't defend someone on their own merits. The blame has to shoveled off to BB, the producers, Ashleigh, everyone but Helen herself...

So true

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by lime

How do people know Asleigh didn't get a warning.She should of had one btw but I think the first one we seen Helen recieveing was her 15th,so they obviously don't show us all the warnings.

I doubt very much she has had 15 !!! no doubt a rumour spread by Mathew who is very bitter towards Helen,and something people who dont like her are happy to hang on to and even add to.

[kefln]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I doubt very much she has had 15 !!! no doubt a rumour spread by Mathew who is very bitter towards Helen,and something pwoplw who dont like her are happy to hang on to and even add to.

Actually...you have no idea how many warning Helen has received, just like everyone else here. You can't dismiss it, as others can't prove it.

All we really know is that Helen was given a formal warning and has been warned yet again, for these two comments:

‘You’re a very bitter, nasty back stabbing little b******d'. You’ve completely transformed, you turned into a p*s*y, the other night and you let Toya take your ******ing back lash...******ing p*ssy, match up to your ******ing description you ******ing weed’.

‘I actually just want to go in and ****ing smash her ****ing head in.’

The reason people don't like her is right there in black and white. It has been there in every confrontation that she has had.

Facts are facts. Helen has been in trouble with BB more often than anyone else in the house. Helen has been in more fights that anyone else in the house. Says it all.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by kefln

Actually...you have no idea how many warning Helen has received, just like everyone else here. You can't dismiss it, as others can't prove it.

All we really know is that Helen was given a formal warning and has been warned yet again, for these two comments:

‘You’re a very bitter, nasty back stabbing little b******d'. You’ve completely transformed, you turned into a p*s*y, the other night and you let Toya take your ******ing back lash...******ing p*ssy, match up to your ******ing description you ******ing weed’.

‘I actually just want to go in and ****ing smash her ****ing head in.’

The reason people don't like her is right there in black and white. It has been there in every confrontation that she has had.

Facts are facts. Helen has been in trouble with BB more often than anyone else in the house. Helen has been in more fights that anyone else in the house. Says it all.

We all KNOW this,i think the point people are TRYING to convey is the unfairness of this particular warning,are you with me so far? Are you telling me it's ok for Ashleigh to say something similar and get no comeback,Oh hang on,scrub that as you probably are!!

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by kefln

Actually...you have no idea how many warning Helen has received, just like everyone else here. You can't dismiss it, as others can't prove it.

All we really know is that Helen was given a formal warning and has been warned yet again, for these two comments:

‘You’re a very bitter, nasty back stabbing little b******d'. You’ve completely transformed, you turned into a p*s*y, the other night and you let Toya take your ******ing back lash...******ing p*ssy, match up to your ******ing description you ******ing weed’.

‘I actually just want to go in and ****ing smash her ****ing head in.’

The reason people don't like her is right there in black and white. It has been there in every confrontation that she has had.

Facts are facts. Helen has been in trouble with BB more often than anyone else in the house. Helen has been in more fights that anyone else in the house. Says it all.

Hardly fights, heated arguments yes, but fights no way.
Also maybe,just maybe,just as those of us who believe the listed number of warnings on here are wrong,it would also be better for those list of warnings as to numbers not to be stated as gospel that she has.

Perhaps the whole issue as to what other talking to or warnings she has had are best shelved until it is proven and confirmed by BB what the real facts are, rather than speculation,presented as facts.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by kefln

Actually...you have no idea how many warning Helen has received, just like everyone else here. You can't dismiss it, as others can't prove it.

All we really know is that Helen was given a formal warning and has been warned yet again, for these two comments:

‘You’re a very bitter, nasty back stabbing little b******d'. You’ve completely transformed, you turned into a p*s*y, the other night and you let Toya take your ******ing back lash...******ing p*ssy, match up to your ******ing description you ******ing weed’.

‘I actually just want to go in and ****ing smash her ****ing head in.’

The reason people don't like her is right there in black and white. It has been there in every confrontation that she has had.

Facts are facts. Helen has been in trouble with BB more often than anyone else in the house. Helen has been in more fights that anyone else in the house. Says it all.

only 2 people know how many warnings were given they are helen and big brother. Mathew started the lie because he is a bitter idiot and cant except he is a nonity and a pointles disrespectful bitter human being

[kefln]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

We all KNOW this,i think the point people are TRYING to convey is the unfairness of this particular warning,are you with me so far? Are you telling me it's ok for Ashleigh to say something similar and get no comeback,Oh hang on,scrub that as you probably are!!

Well done. Proving point

Dismiss what others think/believe about how many warnings Helen has/hasn't got. But ok to put words in other peoples mouths!

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by adamski94

only 2 people know how many warnings were given they are helen and big brother. Mathew started the lie because he is a bitter idiot and cant except he is a nonity and a pointles disrespectful bitter human being

I liked Matthew but he did have totally negative issues as to Helen and I agree with all you say above.

[kefln]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Hardly fights, heated arguments yes, but fights no way.
Also maybe,just maybe,just as those of us who believe the listed number of warnings on here are wrong,it would also be better for those list of warnings as to numbers not to be stated as gospel that she has.

Perhaps the whole issue as to what other talking to or warnings she has had are best shelved until it is proven and confirmed by BB what the real facts are, rather than speculation,presented as facts.

Yes, the "supposed" Helen warnings could be wrong, it could be more, it could be less.

But there is only one that counts. The formal one.

And its extremely funny to read peoples opinions on this. Denying that Helen has had so many warnings, despite having ex-HM's talk about it, but then have the same people demand to know why Ashleigh didn't get a warning.

Maybe she did. Maybe she didn't. Maybe the context, the nature and the character of the individual is whats taken into account before warnings are given out.

We've all have seen Helen's outbursts, its wrong to defend them by pointing the finger at another HM and cry foul.

[kefln]

Originally Posted by adamski94

only 2 people know how many warnings were given they are helen and big brother. Mathew started the lie because he is a bitter idiot and cant except he is a nonity and a pointles disrespectful bitter human being

And you know for sure that Mathew lied...because...no...you don't...because BB hasn't confirmed the number of warnings that Helen has received.

So you are trashing Mathew, trying to make a point about him being a disrespectful bitter person?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

So unfair aswell,where is Ashleighs warning,for threatening to smash Christophers head in the mirror,totally double standards

She's only ate teen.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by kefln

And you know for sure that Mathew lied...because...no...you don't...because BB hasn't confirmed the number of warnings that Helen has received.

So you are trashing Mathew, trying to make a point about him being a disrespectful bitter person?

Exactly, BB hasn't confirmed the number, so out of everyone else in that house Matthew knows the number? Yeah, not likely.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by kefln

Yes, the "supposed" Helen warnings could be wrong, it could be more, it could be less.

But there is only one that counts. The formal one.

And its extremely funny to read peoples opinions on this. Denying that Helen has had so many warnings, despite having ex-HM's talk about it, but then have the same people demand to know why Ashleigh didn't get a warning.

Maybe she did. Maybe she didn't. Maybe the context, the nature and the character of the individual is whats taken into account before warnings are given out.

We've all have seen Helen's outbursts, its wrong to defend them by pointing the finger at another HM and cry foul.

With respect however, we should and can only go on what we see,it is up to BB to show us the warnings when given and they haven't shown us Ashleigh getting one.
I stand by what I see,not from what others say or want to be the case.Nothing can operate properly like that.

It is undeniable, 2 threats were made to other housemates,not to their faces but both made in anger and likely frustration too.
Helen as to Ashleigh and smashing her face in, then also Ashleigh in a same scenario of anger and frustration as to Christopher, re- smashing his face into a mirror.

Now if one deserves a warning,then so does the other on balance I say, we know one has been given, we have no idea as yet if a warning was given for the other incident.
Until that is confirmed, then we are right to assume she didn't get one while Helen did.
As warnings are usually eventually shown to the viewers.

It isn't about praising one and running the other down,I have said on here Helen fully deserved her warning for it,that you cannot go around threatening people,however I equally believe Ashleigh deserves one for her incident too.

[kefln]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Exactly, BB hasn't confirmed the number, so out of everyone else in that house Matthew knows the number? Yeah, not likely.

Its not likely that Mathew, a HM who was there, doesn't know?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Exactly, BB hasn't confirmed the number, so out of everyone else in that house Matthew knows the number? Yeah, not likely.

Even it was true Marsh that she had got the 14, 15, 16,20 or whatever figure it has gone up to today as to warnings.
Then how could Matthew even know that and for sure Helen would have never confided that info to him either and neither would BB..

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Even it was true Marsh that she had got the 14, 15, 16,20 or whatever figure it has gone up to today as to warnings.
Then how could Matthew even know that and for sure Helen would have never confided that info to him either and neither would BB..

That's what I'm saying. Helen and BB haven't told anyone so Matthew being the only person to spout about a number is ridiculous. He has no way of knowing. Especially since he's been out of the house for 6 weeks.