[FlippingEck]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Where do you start ?

she's honest

she knows and accepts her faults

she's loyal to her mates

if a spades a spade she will call it one

if she's in the wrong she will admit it

just some of the reasons I am voting for Helen to win

me too Chuff.. Yes she's a bitch.. but she's been a bitch since day 1. she doesn't hide her light under a bushel!!!!!!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by MelihV

I dont think it would change something if she didnt have a pass to finals.

We have no way of knowing I guess but it's quite possible imo

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Please tell us how Ashleigh has been entertaining ? Im baffled

During Girl Power is where she started coming into her own, after Toya's eviction. Showing what a loyal friend she was to Toya she desperately seeked to get Ash out and providing some excellent diary room moments. Without BB spilling all, she would have not incurred the wrath of Helen. However she did not back down from Helen and expertly stood her ground and got a strong fanbase behind her allowing her to triumph over Jale. As Power Housemate she got scum Steven out and despite BB desperately trying to get her out she still prevailed and received no nominations in the final nominations, an incredible turnaround. She also created some long lasting friends in Danielle, Toya, Chris and Christopher.

The fact that Helen and BB failed to get her out speaks volumes.

Yes, Helen has been one of the most entertaining housemates this series but she fails as a person.

[Bridget51]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Where do you start ?

she's honest

she knows and accepts her faults

she's loyal to her mates

if a spades a spade she will call it one

if she's in the wrong she will admit it

just some of the reasons I am voting for Helen to win

Utter rubbish. It is your prerogative to vote for who ever you want but please - honest, calls a spade a spade? And to beat it all - 'she admits when she is in the wrong' what show have you been watching? She only has the balls to confront those who are scared of her. She knows Ashleigh is not afraid of her so talks bull **** behind her back and everyone wonders why Ashleigh does exactly the same. You have the right to back your favourite and have your opinions but please try and be truthful - the girl is nasty

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

...and then in the last week she cries and sobs..why me? Why me?...it's not fair...poor me

Lol, when you support Ashleigh and her cronies you can't really attack anybody else for playing the “poor me” act.

[jessicadanielle]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Oh petemitch...don't encourage them.
It's simple...Helen says it how it is..
Helen has been on a journey...
Helen doesn't bitch like Ashleigh...
Helens loyal..


There are so many threads pro Helen it's just boring. I think people are either trying to convince themselves and convince us that she's a great person and deserves to win...
The woman is nasty...inside and out and I haven't let the wool be pulled over my eyes...

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Yeah this has annoyed me a lot over the last few weeks. As soon as you say anything about Helen it's like "yeah but you Ashleigh fans...!"

Exactly! I don't like Helen, and have kinda gone off Ashleigh. I don't get why everything has become Helen vs. Ashleigh, the majority of threads are about them. I really felt the trial task was just a way to garner stronger support from hardcore Helen and Ashleigh fans to gain more votes for them both, and it seems to have worked. I almost feel like I have to make it clear that I'm not a Helen fan when I criticise Ashleigh and vice versa to show I'm not just biased!

And I agree with you, at the moment my top three is looking like Christopher, Chris and Ash, with Ashleigh wavering in and out maybe.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

We have no way of knowing I guess but it's quite possible imo

Ironically I think without the pass she would've been like Ashleigh where she was quiet for the first couple of weeks before her nasty side came out.

[jessicadanielle]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

Lol, when you support Ashleigh and her cronies you can't really attack anybody else for playing the “poor me” act.

I really don't believe Ashleigh has ever demonstrated any sort of poor me behaviour. The only people that have are Danielle in the first week when she wasn't even attached to Ashleigh, Pav, and Helen whenever she gets mad that people don't like her.

[jessicadanielle]

Originally Posted by FlippingEck

me too Chuff.. Yes she's a bitch.. but she's been a bitch since day 1. she doesn't hide her light under a bushel!!!!!!

What is so applaudable about ALWAYS being a bitch? Fair enough you say she's always been herself, but herself is a complete arsehole.

I can see why you might dislike Ashleigh, but Chris, Christopher, Ash and Pav have also been the same since day 1 in my opinion, just nice lads (with the odd slip up, they're only human).

[Mystic Mock]

Ashleigh less so than Danielle, Chris, and Christopher, but she does like to compare Helen to her School bullies quite a lot which she knows is gonna garner herself some sympathy out of it, even I feel bad for her when she brings that up so god knows what neutrals, Ashleigh supporters, and Helen haters are thinking when they hear her mention that.

[MB.]

Originally Posted by jessicadanielle

What is so applaudable about ALWAYS being a bitch? Fair enough you say she's always been herself, but herself is a complete arsehole.

It's just double standards. Ashleigh bitching is frowned upon, whereas Helen bitching is seen as 'keeping it real' and 'calling a spade a spade' and all this other nonsense.

[jet]

They want Helen to win because of dislike for Ashleigh mostly.
I've seen some whose favs have been Christopher or Chris for ages change to supporting Helen because they don't like their growing friendship and support of Ashleigh.
Long time favs dropped like a hot potato. Dead giveaway, that.

[jessicadanielle]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

Ashleigh less so than Danielle, Chris, and Christopher, but she does like to compare Helen to her School bullies quite a lot which she knows is gonna garner herself some sympathy out of it, even I feel bad for her when she brings that up so god knows what neutrals, Ashleigh supporters, and Helen haters are thinking when they hear her mention that.

I don't think that amounts to a poor me routine personally. The only time I remember that bully thing is in the conversation with Chris when they were both being positive about her. I don't really remember the conversation though so can't really comment.

I feel that if it were a poor me routine, she'd go to the DR after arguments with her and be like "why does she have to be like that to me all the time? " but she doesn't, she goes on the attack, says she can ****** off, etc. Ashleigh wants to be seen as a strong woman, not a victim, in my opinion anyway.

[FlippingEck]

Originally Posted by jessicadanielle

What is so applaudable about ALWAYS being a bitch? Fair enough you say she's always been herself, but herself is a complete arsehole.

I can see why you might dislike Ashleigh, but Chris, Christopher, Ash and Pav have also been the same since day 1 in my opinion, just nice lads (with the odd slip up, they're only human).

I was applauding Chuff's comment

Ok...
Chris - slimy slithering snake.. can't say what I really think of him.. I'd be banned in an instant, but a grown man telling an 19 year old she is his crutch ?? Pathetic excuse of a "man"
Christopher - Fake as fcuk.. Liked him at the start but getting with Mark was a big mistake... MASSIVE mistake...
Ash - Love him... brilliant housemate, gives 100% in tasks and is fair and level headed.. top bloke
Pav - I have no problem with Pav AT ALL.. he seems fair and level headed like Ash... As long as *******igh and the two creeps don't win, Im not THAT bothered... I'd prefer Helen win, but I wont be gutted if it's Ash or Pav.

[FlippingEck]

Originally Posted by MB&U

It's just double standards. Ashleigh bitching is frowned upon, whereas Helen bitching is seen as 'keeping it real' and 'calling a spade a spade' and all this other nonsense.

It's not double standards at all.... *******igh does not do honesty, she does bitching in secret with the two creeps... she isn't interested in being open and direct.. she'd rather take the 2 creeps off to a "quiet" area where she knows the camera will be totally focussed on her and slag off the others behind their backs... playground mentality.

[MB.]

Originally Posted by FlippingEck

It's not double standards at all.... *******igh does not do honesty, she does bitching in secret with the two creeps... she isn't interested in being open and direct.. she'd rather take the 2 creeps off to a "quiet" area where she knows the camera will be totally focussed on her and slag off the others behind their backs... playground mentality.

And Helen's never done that?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by MB&U

It's just double standards. Ashleigh bitching is frowned upon, whereas Helen bitching is seen as 'keeping it real' and 'calling a spade a spade' and all this other nonsense.

But role reverse that and see the double standards that the Ashleigh fans do to Helen.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Where do you start ?

she's honest

she knows and accepts her faults

she's loyal to her mates

if a spades a spade she will call it one

if she's in the wrong she will admit it

just some of the reasons I am voting for Helen to win

If she could only change and apologise eh.

[FlippingEck]

Originally Posted by MB&U

And Helen's never done that?

Helen hasn't slated anyone behind their back that she wouldn't say to their face. Can people get this right... either she is a nasty aggressive vile bulleh.. or she's a sneaky backstabbing bitch..

personally, I think she's just normal..!

[Beso]

Originally Posted by FlippingEck

I was applauding Chuff's comment

Ok...
Chris - slimy slithering snake.. can't say what I really think of him.. I'd be banned in an instant, but a grown man telling an 19 year old she is his crutch ?? Pathetic excuse of a "man"
Christopher - Fake as fcuk.. Liked him at the start but getting with Mark was a big mistake... MASSIVE mistake...
Ash - Love him... brilliant housemate, gives 100% in tasks and is fair and level headed.. top bloke
Pav - I have no problem with Pav AT ALL.. he seems fair and level headed like Ash... As long as *******igh and the two creeps don't win, Im not THAT bothered... I'd prefer Helen win, but I wont be gutted if it's Ash or Pav.

You need 200plus posts before you can call chuff chuff.

[zakman440]

It's quite simple really... I don't.

[JoshBB]

She's the most genuine and wears her flaws upon her sleeves as they would say. A perfect housemate is hiding something and I therefore Helen is the only one I can currently trust. Would be a great winner, she's been targeted by fans, housemates, producers, and BOTS.

[FlippingEck]

Originally Posted by parmnion

You need 200plus posts before you can call chuff chuff.

I think you'll find that Im allowed to call chuff just that... in fact.. I can call chuff "ch" and that's perfectly fine.

[jessicadanielle]

Originally Posted by FlippingEck

I was applauding Chuff's comment

Sorry, when I said applaudable I wasn't referring to you writing , just the fact that Helen supporters praise her for being a bitch since day 1

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

But role reverse that and see the double standards that the Ashleigh fans do to Helen.

Exactly. Ashleigh and Helen fans both seem to have double standards about the girls' behaviour. There have been instances where they've both reacted in exactly the same way and supporters won't accept that they can both be as good/bad as each other.

They have both "threatened" to smash people's faces in or something along those lines, but in neither case was it an actual threat, just words spoken in anger. If it was a real threat they wouldn't be in there anymore.

They have both bitched about each other and other hms behind their backs. Both of them are two-faced at times, and both say things to people's faces at times.

They both made a sort of truce to be friends half way through the series and both stuck to it for a while. Neither hm "allowed" the other to come into the group or was so gracious to forgive all the others' sins. They were both dicks and it was a mutual agreement.

I don't believe they're the same by any means and of course you can support one but not the other, but in the examples above, they should be judged the same!

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

I don't want her to win.

She will not win.

She does not deserve to win.

Her whole appearance on BB is based on the fact she had a free pass to the final. how many more times do I have to say this.

All her actions/interactions are based on this lie, it's not a real experience for her as she has cheated her way to the final.

She is totally undeserving and must NOT win at all costs.




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Perfectly put Nedusa!