[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by LukeB

nope because matthew did not start the argument he just slagged helen off who helen can defend herself, ash should let him have his opinions and have a good time, im not even a matthew fan

I think Ash is a gentleman for letting Helen enjoy her win and putting that horrible cretin Matthew in his place.

He and Toya have made utter fools of themselves since they were booted out.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

I think Ash is a gentleman for letting Helen enjoy her win and putting that horrible cretin Matthew in his place.

He and Toya have made utter fools of themselves since they were booted out.

ash should just be a adult and ignore matthew and have a good time

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by LukeB

ash should just be a adult and ignore matthew and have a good time

Why should he sit by and watch a bitter little tosser slag his friend off?

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

Why should he sit by and watch a bitter little tosser slag his friend off?

If he hadn't sat there slagging people off himself and being generally nastu for no reason, he might have a right to be offended by the idea of slagging someone off.

As it stands, he doesn't. He and Helen have dished out enough poison, they should be big enough to take some back.

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

Why should he sit by and watch a bitter little tosser slag his friend off?

He was justified when Helen threw all the insults under the sun at him in the haus

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Petemitch

He was justified when Helen threw all the insults under the sun at him in the haus

Sssssh, don't involve facts. Some people are trying to conveniently forget certain events to back up their arguments.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

Sssssh, don't involve facts. Some people are trying to conveniently forget certain events to back up their arguments.

What facts have been missed?

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

What facts have been missed?

Some Ash and Helen fans are acting like Matthew slagging them off is totally unwarranted, as if they didn't treat him (and others) like ****.

In answer to your question of "Why should he sit by and watch a bitter little tosser slag his friend off?". Frankly, that "bitter little tosser" has a very valid reason to "slag his friend off".

On the subject of slagging people off, didn't Helen and Ash sit there mocking "the slug's elephant ears" in the early weeks? So, Ash is so furious that his precious friend is being slagged off by someone she tried to physically intimidate, yet he has no problem with the cruel tirades Helen goes off on for no reason at all, he's even happy to join in?

Ash has even had the gall to be all offended and angry by Jale's comments since she's left. So, he can mock her as "the slug", but she has to adore him?

That's my issue with this whole thing. Helen and Ash have been horrible, they have no right whatsoever to act morally superior when they're the ones being slagged off.

I'm not saying Matthew's a saint by the way, but Ash's "one rule for us, one rule for them" attitude is repulsive. His "I don't like nastiness and bitching" act doesn't work with me, I actually remember the first few weeks. He has no problem with it, he just doesn't like he and his friends being on the other end of it, even if they've provoked it.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Petemitch

He was justified when Helen threw all the insults under the sun at him in the haus

He said just as much back and has repeated himself since, at least Helen moved on. He is bitter and that is all this runs down to.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

Why should he sit by and watch a bitter little tosser slag his friend off?

...well he did in the house...