[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Petemitch

He was justified when Helen threw all the insults under the sun at him in the haus

Sssssh, don't involve facts. Some people are trying to conveniently forget certain events to back up their arguments.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

Sssssh, don't involve facts. Some people are trying to conveniently forget certain events to back up their arguments.

What facts have been missed?

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

What facts have been missed?

Some Ash and Helen fans are acting like Matthew slagging them off is totally unwarranted, as if they didn't treat him (and others) like ****.

In answer to your question of "Why should he sit by and watch a bitter little tosser slag his friend off?". Frankly, that "bitter little tosser" has a very valid reason to "slag his friend off".

On the subject of slagging people off, didn't Helen and Ash sit there mocking "the slug's elephant ears" in the early weeks? So, Ash is so furious that his precious friend is being slagged off by someone she tried to physically intimidate, yet he has no problem with the cruel tirades Helen goes off on for no reason at all, he's even happy to join in?

Ash has even had the gall to be all offended and angry by Jale's comments since she's left. So, he can mock her as "the slug", but she has to adore him?

That's my issue with this whole thing. Helen and Ash have been horrible, they have no right whatsoever to act morally superior when they're the ones being slagged off.

I'm not saying Matthew's a saint by the way, but Ash's "one rule for us, one rule for them" attitude is repulsive. His "I don't like nastiness and bitching" act doesn't work with me, I actually remember the first few weeks. He has no problem with it, he just doesn't like he and his friends being on the other end of it, even if they've provoked it.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

Some Ash and Helen fans are acting like Matthew slagging them off is totally unwarranted, as if they didn't treat him (and others) like ****.

In answer to your question of "Why should he sit by and watch a bitter little tosser slag his friend off?". Frankly, that "bitter little tosser" has a very valid reason to "slag his friend off".

On the subject of slagging people off, didn't Helen and Ash sit there mocking "the slug's elephant ears" in the early weeks? So, Ash is so furious that his precious friend is being slagged off by someone she tried to physically intimidate, yet he has no problem with the cruel tirades Helen goes off on for no reason at all, he's even happy to join in?

Ash has even had the gall to be all offended and angry by Jale's comments since she's left. So, he can mock her as "the slug", but she has to adore him?

That's my issue with this whole thing. Helen and Ash have been horrible, they have no right whatsoever to act morally superior when they're the ones being slagged off.

I'm not saying Matthew's a saint by the way, but Ash's "one rule for us, one rule for them" attitude is repulsive. His "I don't like nastiness and bitching" act doesn't work with me, I actually remember the first few weeks. He has no problem with it, he just doesn't like he and his friends being on the other end of it, even if they've provoked it.

great post 100% agree, they way Helen spoke to Matthew was disgusting.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by BigBrotherfan4ever

great post 100% agree, they way Helen spoke to Matthew was disgusting.

And the way he's spoke about her is equally disgusting,trouble is he is carrying his bitterness on,and good on Ash,it's what any true friend would do.