[the truth]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I imagine its something like 0.001% of abortions or something that are just chosen (eg. not for medical reasons) that are carried out at 24 weeks, unless you have some actual statistics to say otherwise. I agree that its totally wrong to do it that late, I have never said otherwise...infact I mentioned earlier in the thread lowering the limit to around 10 weeks except for medical reasons?

Yes bleating on, I completely get the pro-life arguments, believe me. However you just keep repeating 'murdered babies' and '24 weeks' over and over..which kinda nulls any real point you have to make

if youre that easily put off the pro life agenda just because of a few trivial semantics it shows how shallow your opinion on this massive issue is.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by the truth

if youre that easily put off the pro life agenda just because of a few trivial semantics it shows how shallow your opinion on this massive issue is.

Again, I never even said that...

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Again, I never even said that...

you more than inferred it. very fickle, this is pro life is massive massive issue you should treat it more seriously and not get dissuaded by trivialities

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by the truth

you more than inferred it. very fickle, this is pro life is massive massive issue you should treat it more seriously and not get dissuaded by trivialities

No. What I said is I understand the pro-life stance completely. Not to say I agree with it completely, as I lean more towards pro-choice..however I think the limit should be drastically lowered (mind I don't think it would make much difference as most are carried out before 13 weeks anyway) and I disagree with multiple abortions..though I'm not quite sure how we could get around that as again its a case of forcing people to go through pregnancies they do not want. I'm not totally against the idea of sterilization for people who view abortion as a contraceptive and have loads of them actually, but thats another issue entirely.

Dissuaded by trivialities..nothing I read on this forum would EVER change my view, especially on a massive issue like this. My point was more along the line of you don't come across as pro-life at all, more pro-repetitive pretty much copy and pasted drivel. Others can debate about the subject and put their views across well, you just repeat the same thing over and over, and argue against points that noone even made.

So no...not fickle at all.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

No. What I said is I understand the pro-life stance completely. Not to say I agree with it completely, as I lean more towards pro-choice..however I think the limit should be drastically lowered (mind I don't think it would make much difference as most are carried out before 13 weeks anyway) and I disagree with multiple abortions..though I'm not quite sure how we could get around that as again its a case of forcing people to go through pregnancies they do not want. I'm not totally against the idea of sterilization for people who view abortion as a contraceptive and have loads of them actually, but thats another issue entirely.

Dissuaded by trivialities..nothing I read on this forum would EVER change my view, especially on a massive issue like this. My point was more along the line of you don't come across as pro-life at all, more pro-repetitive pretty much copy and pasted drivel. Others can debate about the subject and put their views across well, you just repeat the same thing over and over, and argue against points that noone even made.

So no...not fickle at all.

trivial petty attack, a lot of it repetitive too. ill rise above your pettiness and agree that things need to change. 24 week abortions is horrific. the support given to parents is sub standard a point ive made endlessly yet you've deliberately ignored yet again. its this sub standard support in the nhs that's a huge part of the reason we see so many rushed abortions on this unprecedented scale.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by the truth

trivial petty attack, a lot of it repetitive too. ill rise above your pettiness and agree that things need to change. 24 week abortions is horrific. the support given to parents is sub standard a point ive made endlessly yet you've deliberately ignored yet again. its this sub standard support in the nhs that's a huge part of the reason we see so many rushed abortions on this unprecedented scale.

Really? Maybe try reading back as I agreed with you about that too