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Old 05-09-2014, 04:00 PM #1
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If this beheading had happened at any other time, other than a RED ALERT for terrorism, I'm sure a lot more people would not think it's terrorism.

I don't think it makes the UK stupid for thinking it was a terrorist attack. It's good to be aware that this type of stuff can happen. It would be naive to think that this never happens.
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If this beheading had happened at any other time, other than a RED ALERT for terrorism, I'm sure a lot more people would not think it's terrorism.
But that is exactly my point. People are seeing ghosts in every window, because someone's told them that the castle is haunted. It's the whole purpose of terrorism - to make people fear attack. To see threats and danger at every turn when in reality the chances of being directly affected by such an attack are incredibly low.

I'm not being naive or saying that terrorist attacks don't happen. I'm just saying that it's frankly bizarre that news sources have to point out, in cases like this, that it's "probably not related to the terrorism alert level". That it has to be, pointed out that it's highly unlikely for there to have been a complex, multi-layer terrorist cell plot to murder an old lady and some cats.

This is continuing and perpetuating an illusion of constant danger where there is (effectively) none. You are more likely to crash your car and die driving home, or suffer from random cardiac failure right this very second, than you are to be killed or injured in a terrorist attack. "red alert" or not.
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But that is exactly my point. People are seeing ghosts in every window, because someone's told them that the castle is haunted. It's the whole purpose of terrorism - to make people fear attack. To see threats and danger at every turn when in reality the chances of being directly affected by such an attack are incredibly low.

I'm not being naive or saying that terrorist attacks don't happen. I'm just saying that it's frankly bizarre that news sources have to point out, in cases like this, that it's "probably not related to the terrorism alert level". That it has to be, pointed out that it's highly unlikely for there to have been a complex, multi-layer terrorist cell plot to murder an old lady and some cats.

This is continuing and perpetuating an illusion of constant danger where there is (effectively) none. You are more likely to crash your car and die driving home, or suffer from random cardiac failure right this very second, than you are to be killed or injured in a terrorist attack. "red alert" or not.
It's not a case of being directly affected, it's being indirectly affected too...
The fear nationally would grow if there was another significant attack, we all have a responsibility as citizens to maintain a safe environment for ourselves and others don't we?
I live in Leeds a large city which has from time to time been named as the target by terror organisations so we have been used to these requests for vigilance for years, it doesn't impact negatively on my life nor do I feel in constant fear, the saying is to be forewarned is to be four armed, no good ever came of an I'm alright jack attitude.
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no good ever came of an I'm alright jack attitude.
That's not even close to what I was getting at, my point is that a disproportionate level fear disrupting daily thought processes is the main goal of terrorism and we play right into their hands via the media and paranoid word of mouth. But I dont think you get it at all, so I'm just going to leave it. Enjoy living in constant vigilance.
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That's not even close to what I was getting at, my point is that a disproportionate level fear disrupting daily thought processes is the main goal of terrorism and we play right into their hands via the media and paranoid word of mouth. But I dont think you get it at all, so I'm just going to leave it. Enjoy living in constant vigilance.
I understand you're view as you've described it, you don't feel you'll ever be be personally affected (and I hope your not) therefore you don't feel the need for counter terrorism and preparedness measures.
The main goal of terrorists is to cause maximum damage and loss of life during an incident, do I feel the public could and should have a part to play in preventing such incidents? Yes.
Enjoy living like a not so wise monkey TS.

It's very different now to terrorism was years ago, when did you first hear of the term 'suicide bomber'? That changed everything.
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I understand you're view as you've described it, you don't feel you'll ever be be personally affected (and I hope your not) therefore you don't feel the need for counter terrorism and preparedness measures.
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I used the wrong your... the rest is correct
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