[arista]

The Labour Leader brought this up at PM's question.

A recording taken from a fringe meeting
is Not Policy
and never will be.



[welfare minister Lord Freud faces calls to be sacked after saying disabled people 'are not worth' the minimum wage

Lord Freud recorded speaking at the Conservative party conference
Responding to a question about what disabled people should be paid
He said there was a 'small group' who are 'not worth' the £6.50 rate
Said he was looking at how someone could be paid just £2-an-hour
Forced to issue a 'full and unreserved apology' after row erupted at PMQs ]



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3GE81k9II

[Livia]

There go the Conservatives again, only opening their mouths to change feet.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Livia

There go the Conservatives again, only opening their mouths to change feet.

But its not even a Real Policy
Easy to spin this like Labour Leader did.


Its a Fringe meeting from 2 weeks ago or so,
saved for today

[Marsh.]

****ing scum.

[joeysteele]

Would there have been any apology or comeback however had this not been overheard, that is the real concern.

I am sorry but having seen the devastation brought to some of the disabled individuals and their families lives by the policies of this Govt.
His comments actually ring more true with me than does David Cameron's supposed official line.

It is claimed this 'Lord' has done great work for the Govt. as to welfare reform, not from where I am sitting looking at it , and just maybe this is the real line,'IF' they could ever get the chance to get away with doing it that is.

[michael21]

Originally Posted by arista

But its not even a Real Policy
Easy to spin this like Labour Leader did.


Its a Fringe meeting from 2 weeks ago or so,
saved for today

yes saved for today but still in date just

Freud thought he got away with it well he did not

he need the sack fast and now i am on the case it will happen

[JoshBB]

He should have been fired on the spot tbh

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

****ing scum.

Bit harsh on the disableds Morsh

[arista]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

He should have been fired on the spot tbh

Not possible
it was the Live PMQ's


Also its a edit
so you do not have the full context.



The PM stated is never going to be Policy
Live

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Bit harsh on the disableds Morsh

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by arista

Not possible
it was the Live PMQ's


Also its a edit
so you do not have the full context.



The PM stated is never going to be Policy
Live

We know that the PM stated it will never be policy. I believe that. However, surely the best way to condemn the statement is to fire/suspend the mp.

[arista]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

We know that the PM stated it will never be policy. I believe that. However, surely the best way to condemn the statement is to fire/suspend the mp.

Yes Remove him could come
depends on the Front pages.



sadly we can no longer post
as SkyNews site has taken away the img jpg etc (for papers only)
on the new updated site

[kirklancaster]

This is the guy whose policies are quoted as "making the poor pay for the risk-taking of the rich."

Not bad comments about disabled pay coming from a man who spends more on one meal dining out than the average family have to live on for a week.

Beneath contempt.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Not possible
it was the Live PMQ's


Also its a edit
so you do not have the full context.



The PM stated is never going to be Policy
Live

David Cameron said there would be no policy of a top down re-organisation of the NHS but he did it.

I wouldn't put my trust in him or bet on what he says as to this new issue too as having any long truth to it now.

I agree with those who say that this Lord should have resigned and if he won't then he should be sacked and have not a single thing more to do as to welfare reform or the disabled.

[rubymoo]

One word..........twat!

[arista]

"I agree with those who say that this Lord should have resigned "


Yes that may come

[Shaun]

Remind me again why we have lords

[Livia]

He should be sacked. No question... if I made as big a gaff as this at work I'd be out.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Shaun

Remind me again why we have lords

So the government can't knee-jerk laws through because it suits them. However... the place needs a good clear out.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Shaun

Remind me again why we have lords

Now it's not so much a 'Job for the Boys', but more a 'Jobs for the Old Boys' - those past their 'sell by'. The whole system needs abolishing.

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by Shaun

Remind me again why we have lords

house of lords literally needs to be abolished

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

house of lords literally needs to be abolished

I don't know about abolished Josh but maybe that will in the end be the only way to fully reform it.

I am not really in favour of another elected 2nd chamber, with elections likely taking place halfway through one Parliament and then more problems caused by the 2nd chamber.

The Lords, have on a good few occasions curbed the extremes of some policies from Govts. by delaying the process and sending things back to the Commons to be voted on again.
It has its uses at times but it does need reforming and also to be made far more representative of the Country as a whole.

I actually doubt however that any major Lords reform will happen for a very long time.
It is one of those things that gets talked about a lot but never even gets to the first steps let alone all the way as to the journey of major reform.

[Livia]

Agree with all that, Joey.

[Kizzy]

Did anyone see that little apologist dweeb on c4 news? 'He shouldn't be demonised for thinking aloud' shut the eff up!

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I don't know about abolished Josh but maybe that will in the end be the only way to fully reform it.

I am not really in favour of another elected 2nd chamber, with elections likely taking place halfway through one Parliament and then more problems caused by the 2nd chamber.

The Lords, have on a good few occasions curbed the extremes of some policies from Govts. by delaying the process and sending things back to the Commons to be voted on again.
It has its uses at times but it does need reforming and also to be made far more representative of the Country as a whole.

I actually doubt however that any major Lords reform will happen for a very long time.
It is one of those things that gets talked about a lot but never even gets to the first steps let alone all the way as to the journey of major reform.

You shouldn't need the Lords to do that though. A proper Constitution/Bill of Rights could serve the same purpose of protection.