[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by MTVN

He should pay up really, there is a logic to the increase which is that we've been underpaying for years and it's our government that has re-evaluated the size of our economy and thus means we should be paying more.

I'd like Cameron and the Tories as a whole to stop trying to appease the Eurosceptics, supposedly he believes in the EU in principle but all we ever hear is him criticising it and highlighting its negatives rather than its positives - that's what plays into Ukip's hands and risks making the Conservatives just look like Ukip-lite.

He's kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place.I agree he is looking like a "UKIP-lite" but if he goes the way of Labour and goes full on pro EU he leaves UKIP as the ONLY option for Euro skeptics who are growing in number.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

He's kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place.I agree he is looking like a "UKIP-lite" but if he goes the way of Labour and goes full on pro EU he leaves UKIP as the ONLY option for Euro skeptics who are growing in number.

I don't necessarily think he should give unqualified support to the EU, I actually think his fundamental policy on Europe is fairly sound in attempting to renegotiate the terms of Britain's membership before having a referendum. But he obviously believes in the EU in principle and thinks it can be a force for good but never stresses this. All we do see is the anti-EU posturing where he seems determined to constantly put himself on a collision course with the other member states and continually deny the consensus within the EU on anything. Doing so sort of fuels the Eurosceptic hysteria where everything is the fault of Brussels, where every EU related story gets twisted into some sort of attack on British sovereignty. Makes me worry that Cameron is inadvertently steering us out of the EU regardless of the concessions that he might secure from Brussels if he does win the next election (a very big if I know)