[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

Well people can take the moral high ground because they're not killing innocent people?

A killer is a killer, the innocence or guilt of the person they've killed is irrelevant and can't be used as a justification to kill them.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

A killer is a killer, the innocence or guilt of the person they've killed is irrelevant and can't be used as a justification to kill them.

I'm not saying not to punish vigilantes in terms of the law can't be seen to reward any type of murderer.

But anyone trying to claim that vigilantes are morally just as evil as a serial killer is seriously insane as at least vigilantes are thinking from a decent place, normal murderers kill for the most ridiculous of reasons most of the time.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

A killer is a killer, the innocence or guilt of the person they've killed is irrelevant and can't be used as a justification to kill them.

I'm not sure I agree that a killer is just a killer, it would depend on the reason, for example if someone was trying to kill me (or even someone else) and the only way I could stop them was to bash their head with a brick... I wouldn't really have any problem in doing so. But that's different to a "revenge kill", I suppose.

That said, if someone killed one of my loved ones, I can't really say that I'm morally above revenge killing, either. Although I wouldn't attempt to take any sort of moral high ground. I just wouldn't care.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I'm not sure I agree that a killer is just a killer, it would depend on the reason, for example if someone was trying to kill me (or even someone else) and the only way I could stop them was to bash their head with a brick... I wouldn't really have any problem in doing so. But that's different to a "revenge kill", I suppose.

That said, if someone killed one of my loved ones, I can't really say that I'm morally above revenge killing, either. Although I wouldn't attempt to take any sort of moral high ground. I just wouldn't care.

Self defense or the defense of another is justifiable, revenge killing and it's ilk isn't. I think it's an insult to the victim because it's killing someone in their name. Even if a loved one of mine was killed I'd never think of killing the person who did it because if, I was ever murdered, I would not want someone I love to throw their life away on a selfish need for revenge and I would like to think that other people think like that too.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Self defense or the defense of another is justifiable, revenge killing and it's ilk isn't. I think it's an insult to the victim because it's killing someone in their name. Even if a loved one of mine was killed I'd never think of killing the person who did it because if, I was ever murdered, I would not want someone I love to throw their life away on a selfish need for revenge and I would like to think that other people think like that too.

..I agree with you for the reasons you've said Dezzy but also because ..imagining how I would feel if that happened to a member of my family/the impact/sadness/pain of it..?...why would I even consider inflicting the same on the family of the attacker/killer because they are complete innocents..why would I put another parent through that...how could that ever be justified or have any 'satisfaction or justice' whatsoever....it would only double the pain...