[user104658]

I don't want Hungary people making my sandwiches... They'll probably take a bite!

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Forced to?... yeah right, if you are recruited in another country are you paid there or here? There must be some scam for employers, something to do with minimum wage or tax breaks for employing outside the UK...

Someone cynical might wonder if this is the case - what immediately jumps out at me is that they would avoid Employer's National Insurance (company adds to your NI contributions on top of what comes soft of your own wage) and, also, automatic pension enrollment came in this year (money comes out of pay unless you opt out and the employer has to contribute extra on top of that). Have to question whether or not that would apply to a workforce from outside the UK...

[arista]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I don't want Hungary people making my sandwiches... They'll probably take a bite!



Someone cynical might wonder if this is the case - what immediately jumps out at me is that they would avoid Employer's National Insurance (company adds to your NI contributions on top of what comes soft of your own wage) and, also, automatic pension enrollment came in this year (money comes out of pay unless you opt out and the employer has to contribute extra on top of that). Have to question whether or not that would apply to a workforce from outside the UK...

You can see in the Photos Greencore
have given the press
all the Employees are good.


All EU workers brought have to be legal
so the agency in Hungary
makes sure of that.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by arista

You can see in the Photos Greencore
have given the press
all the Employees are good.


All EU workers brought have to be legal
so the agency in Hungary
makes sure of that.

Yes but legal loopholes are called "loopholes" for a reason - they're not illegal.

If the workers are still classed as resident in their home country then (I would assume) their pension is still tied to that country, as will any equivalent of National Insurance be (if there is one)... so, then, whilst the workers will still be contributing Income Tax to the UK pot, the company itself won't have to shell out for the new pension scheme or Employer's N.I. contributions, which, with 300+ workers, would save the company several thousand pounds every month.

This is largely guesswork of course - I don't actually know how N.I. contributions work for EU migrants. I know that if I was a temporary migrant who would be moving home eventually, I wouldn't be happy about paying N.I. contributions...

Quick google:

Do I have to pay NIC (National Insurance contributions) in the UK?

If you come to the UK from another EU country or from Norway, Iceland, Liechtenstein or Switzerland, you may not have to pay NIC but, instead, could continue to pay social security in the country where you were formerly employed.

Tadaaa... may be the case that these workers are not going to be paying UK National Insurance but instead paying social security in Hungary. In the UK, if you are paying N.I., your employer adds to that out of their own pocket. They will not have to do so if their workers are not paying N.I. Completely "legal".


http://www.litrg.org.uk/tax-guides/m...or-switzerland

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I don't want Hungary people making my sandwiches... They'll probably take a bite!

Hey T.S - No more puns, stick to the heavy 'intelligent' stuff, leave the comedy to Marsh. LT, and me.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Hey T.S - No more puns, stick to the heavy 'intelligent' stuff, leave the comedy to Marsh. LT, and me.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Hey T.S - No more puns, stick to the heavy 'intelligent' stuff, leave the comedy to Marsh. LT, and me.

Or failing that someone funny

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Or failing that someone funny

Ouch!!