[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

And I still don't get why he didn't use a tazor instead. I just read this on another article


"On social media, commentators noted the irony of police shooting a boy with a replica gun in Ohio -- one of several US states where openly carrying a firearm is legal."

if it was a call to an armed suspect then you leave the tazer in the car. They respond to guns with guns.

remember they were told it was an armed man in park pointing a gun around, that is wall they got.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

if it was a call to an armed suspect then you leave the tazer in the car. They respond to guns with guns.

remember they were told it was an armed man in park pointing a gun around, that is wall they got.

how do you know what they were told? According to the 911 call we heard, the operator was given the information that it was probably a fake gun and probably a juvenile.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

how do you know what they were told? According to the 911 call we heard, the operator was given the information that it was probably a fake gun and probably a juvenile.

No, I read earlier, i think the NYT, that they were not told this information.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

No, I read earlier, i think the NYT, that they were not told this information.

This article?

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/24/us...icer.html?_r=0

Doesn't say that they weren't informed that it may fake/he may be a juvenile in that, it says they were investigating what information was relayed and that's it. This is a good quote from that article though :

“The police have to address these things in the proper context,” he said. “This is a 12-year-old boy. This is not a grown man. I’d think you would handle situations with children differently than you would with an adult. They don’t fully understand everything that is going on.”

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

This article?

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/24/us...icer.html?_r=0

Doesn't say that they weren't informed that it may fake/he may be a juvenile in that, it says they were investigating what information was relayed and that's it. This is a good quote from that article though :

“The police have to address these things in the proper context,” he said. “This is a 12-year-old boy. This is not a grown man. I’d think you would handle situations with children differently than you would with an adult. They don’t fully understand everything that is going on.”

Jeff Follmer, president of the Cleveland Police Patrolmen's Association, said the officers were not told the caller thought the gun might be fake. He said an officer taking a Taser out when they believe there could be a person with a gun puts the officer at risk, the Plain Dealer reported.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...-boy/19471925/

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Jeff Follmer, president of the Cleveland Police Patrolmen's Association, said the officers were not told the caller thought the gun might be fake. He said an officer taking a Taser out when they believe there could be a person with a gun puts the officer at risk, the Plain Dealer reported.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...-boy/19471925/

Ok so he says they weren't told that the gun may be fake, it doesn't say anything about whether or not they were told he was or may be a juvenile though and what you said was "remember they were told it was an armed man in park pointing a gun around, that is wall they got" The fact that he didn't say they weren't told he may be a juvenile but did say it about the gun tells me that maybe they were given this information

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Ok so he says they weren't told that the gun may be fake, it doesn't say anything about whether or not they were told he was or may be a juvenile though and what you said was "remember they were told it was an armed man in park pointing a gun around, that is wall they got" The fact that he didn't say they weren't told he may be a juvenile but did say it about the gun tells me that maybe they were given this information

to be fair the call came in from an old man across the street so i would imagine the call to the patrol was vague and loaded with "proceed with caution"


I would imagine the cops have had many "he is a juvenile" calls only to be met with a 240 pound 6 foot 2 adult