[Niamh.]

Strange that Big Brothers fans would like to go in to Big Brother?

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by ChristmasNeeve

Strange that Big Brothers fans would like to go in to Big Brother?

I am a big fan of Bear Grills and cage fighting but it would be a cold day in hell before I drank my own urine and faced up to a gorilla that could put me in a coma. That's my point.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by sampvt

I am a big fan of Bear Grills and cage fighting but it would be a cold day in hell before I drank my own urine and faced up to a gorilla that could put me in a coma. That's my point.

Those examples aren't really comparable though, Big Brother is a Reality Show that actually uses "ordinary" people, cage fighting and Bear Grylls aren't.....

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by ChristmasNeeve

Those examples aren't really comparable though, Big Brother is a Reality Show that actually uses "ordinary" people, cage fighting and Bear Grylls aren't.....

''Ordinary People'' how do you define that statement, Jade goody was ordinary who became a celeb, Westbrook was a celeb that became very ordinary. Anyone that chooses to live in a media fish bowl and be ridiculed for several weeks in the vain hope they become rich or recognised is definitely not ordinary in the true sense of the word.

We are all human beings that have a varying degree of public awareness. I was followed by many when I was a pro golfer in my hayday but \I am definitely not a celeb. My point was simply that if we categorise possible contestants as quirky or suspect, then why would the very people who spend most of their leisure hours ridiculing these very contestants want to become one. I cant compute that reasoning. I dont think being a fan of anything affords you the right to be treated any different from anyone else and if you disregard the cage fighting and bear analogies, my point is poignant when read under different circumstances.

I don't want to get into an in depth debate about this as we are slightly off topic but suffice it to say that the ordinary people tag cant really be hung on anyone that is willing to undergo these trials, not that there is anything wrong with them (before the crew descends on me) I just think that its strange and slightly hypocritical for someone to enter a program they openly malign

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by sampvt

''Ordinary People'' how do you define that statement, Jade goody was ordinary who became a celeb, Westbrook was a celeb that became very ordinary. Anyone that chooses to live in a media fish bowl and be ridiculed for several weeks in the vain hope they become rich or recognised is definitely not ordinary in the true sense of the word.

We are all human beings that have a varying degree of public awareness. I was followed by many when I was a pro golfer in my hayday but \I am definitely not a celeb. My point was simply that if we categorise possible contestants as quirky or suspect, then why would the very people who spend most of their leisure hours ridiculing these very contestants want to become one. I cant compute that reasoning. I dont think being a fan of anything affords you the right to be treated any different from anyone else and if you disregard the cage fighting and bear analogies, my point is poignant when read under different circumstances.

I don't want to get into an in depth debate about this as we are slightly off topic but suffice it to say that the ordinary people tag cant really be hung on anyone that is willing to undergo these trials, not that there is anything wrong with them (before the crew descends on me) I just think that its strange and slightly hypocritical for someone to enter a program they openly malign

I did put the word ordinary in inverted commas, by "ordinary" I mean members of the general public make up the show, shows like Bear Grylls and Cage fighting don't use members of the general public to make up their shows.

Contestants on Big Brother get just as much "fans" as people who ridicule them, it's not all hate

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by ChristmasNeeve

I did put the word ordinary in inverted commas, by "ordinary" I mean members of the general public make up the show, shows like Bear Grylls and Cage fighting don't use members of the general public to make up their shows.

Contestants on Big Brother get just as much "fans" as people who ridicule them, it's not all hate

Hate and ridicule are 2 different animals, I never alluded to the hate scenario, all I said was it seemed strange. Why is it every time I post an opinion, the microscopes come out and the arguments start. My post was a simple opinion devoid of finger pointing, profanity, x rated content or name calling. Why are you treating it as such. Cant you accept my opinion as something we all have rights to levy. Why cant we both agree that we have different standpoints and leave it at that.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Hate and ridicule are 2 different animals, I never alluded to the hate scenario, all I said was it seemed strange. Why is it every time I post an opinion, the microscopes come out and the arguments start. My post was a simple opinion devoid of finger pointing, profanity, x rated content or name calling. Why are you treating it as such. Cant you accept my opinion as something we all have rights to levy. Why cant we both agree that we have different standpoints and leave it at that.

wow, I thought we were having a discussion not an argument Sam, what's the point in the forum if we were not allowed to discuss things?