[arista]

2 Women going to get their car in City Car Park
A man approached told them to hand over their
car key.

That Robber then used their Stolen car
to rob a Local Pizza shop.


(Ref: bbc local south east news today )

At that Point as she goes for her Car Keys she "should"
grab the Super Power Pepper spray - into his Face
even goes through masks.


These Small Time Punks
get caught.


But next tine women
use you pepper spray
leave the Punk on the floor in pain
get into you car drive off
then Phone the Police 999 number


Life In The City.

[Ninastar]

Don't ****ing tell me what to do you awful man!!!!!1

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

Don't ****ing tell me what to do you awful man!!!!!1

OK Lady

hand whatever the robber wants

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by arista

2 Women going to get their car in City Car Park
A man approached told them to hand over their
car key.

That Robber then used their Stolen car
to rob a Local Pizza shop.

(Ref: bbc local south east news today )

At that Point as she goes for her Car Keys she "should"
grab the Super Power Pepper spray - into his Face
even goes through masks.

These Small Time Punks
get caught.

But next tine women
use you pepper spray
leave the Punk on the floor in pain
get into you car drive off
then Phone the Police 999 number

Life In The City.

I agree with you on everything but two points Arista; She shouldn't just carry pepper spray in her bag - she should also keep a baseball bat in her car, and instead of leaving "the Punk on the floor in pain" then getting into her car and driving off, she should get the baseball bat and hit him a few times on his head and in his stomach and balls, then drive off and call the cops.

[GypsyGoth]

I think the problem is if pepper spray is easily available, the bad guys would use it.

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I agree with you on everything but two points Arista; She shouldn't just carry pepper spray in her bag - she should also keep a baseball bat in her car, and instead of leaving "the Punk on the floor in pain" then getting into her car and driving off, she should get the baseball bat and hit him a few times on his head and in his stomach and balls, then drive off and call the cops.

[arista]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

I think the problem is if pepper spray is easily available, the bad guys would use it.

No they will not as if a Copper searches that Criminal
they know

Hello Hello Hello Whats Going Here you Punk .....

[arista]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I agree with you on everything but two points Arista; She shouldn't just carry pepper spray in her bag - she should also keep a baseball bat in her car, and instead of leaving "the Punk on the floor in pain" then getting into her car and driving off, she should get the baseball bat and hit him a few times on his head and in his stomach and balls, then drive off and call the cops.

No Kirk
then she goes to Jail


By using a Pepper Spray
its like a Police Tool
ideal

[Crimson Dynamo]

i would move to the country where punks dont live


Life in the rural idyll

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by arista

No Kirk
then she goes to Jail


By using a Pepper Spray
its like a Police Tool
ideal

It's still not lawful to use one Arista and constitutes assault or worse. The legal issue is very complex, but is basically the same as if you're in a punch up; if some idiot punches you in the nose and his blow lands, then you punch him back once and KO him, you could be charged with assault, GBH or worse.

Why? Because your punch can be deemed as 'offensive' not 'defensive' because his blow has already struck and you are not legally defending yourself but 'attacking' him.

Now if he continued to punch you and you then hit him back and KO him, you might have a defense of 'acting in self-defense, if you know what I mean, but if a proper fight ensued, regardless of the 'winner', you both could be charged with an array of offences, even though you didn't start it.

If the woman pepper sprayed him just because he demanded her keys - even if a threatening tone was used - she is the one who could face the more serious charge.

Much better to spray him, baseball bat him, then before ringing the cops, ring some of your mates to come to provide false testimony of how he beat you several times, then tried to baseball bat you, but in a struggle you managed to wrest the bat from him and hit him once with it by way of 'self-preservation'. The witnesses could say how his face hit the floor hard to explain any damage to that.

Better still, just beat the bastard to death and drive off.

[arista]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

It's still not lawful to use one Arista and constitutes assault or worse. The legal issue is very complex, but is basically the same as if you're in a punch up; if some idiot punches you in the nose and his blow lands, then you punch him back once and KO him, you could be charged with assault, GBH or worse.

Why? Because your punch can be deemed as 'offensive' not 'defensive' because his blow has already struck and you are not legally defending yourself but 'attacking' him.

Now if he continued to punch you and you then hit him back and KO him, you might have a defense of 'acting in self-defense, if you know what I mean, but if a proper fight ensued, regardless of the 'winner', you both could be charged with an array of offences, even though you didn't start it.

If the woman pepper sprayed him just because he demanded her keys - even if a threatening tone was used - she is the one who could face the more serious charge.

Much better to spray him, baseball bat him, then before ringing the cops, ring some of your mates to come to provide false testimony of how he beat you several times, then tried to baseball bat you, but in a struggle you managed to wrest the bat from him and hit him once with it by way of 'self-preservation'. The witnesses could say how his face hit the floor hard to explain any damage to that.

Better still, just beat the bastard to death and drive off.

http://www.ukpreppersguide.co.uk/uk-...tive-for-women

[Livia]

Ditch the pepper spray and learn self-defence. There's nothing more surprising to a bad guy than a woman who can fight back.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by arista

No they will not as if a Copper searches that Criminal
they know

Hello Hello Hello Whats Going Here you Punk .....

[Kizzy]

I wouldn't suggest anyone tackle anybody with anything ... it's only a car, not worth it.

Move away let them take it and report it as stolen, let the police do their job.

[Calderyon]

Pepper spray legality in UK (from wiki):

United Kingdom: Illegal under Section 5(1)(b) of the Firearms Act 1968: "A person commits an offence if [...] he has in his possession [...] any weapon of whatever description designed or adapted for the discharge of any noxious liquid, gas or other thing"

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Calderyon

Pepper spray legality in UK (from wiki):

United Kingdom: Illegal under Section 5(1)(b) of the Firearms Act 1968: "A person commits an offence if [...] he has in his possession [...] any weapon of whatever description designed or adapted for the discharge of any noxious liquid, gas or other thing"

Quite. And more than that, if you ever sprayed pepper spray you'll know that everyone within 10 feet gets a bit. And it's not nice.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I wouldn't suggest anyone tackle anybody with anything ... it's only a car, not worth it.

Move away let them take it and report it as stolen, let the police do their job.

Sure
You are not Me

Yin and Yang

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

Sure
You are not Me

Yin and Yang

legal V illegal you mean?

[smudgie]

If I had gone to the bother of pepper sprayng them, I would not use anymore energy in beating them up, just drive over the beggars
Saves them being witnesses against you.

[arista]

Originally Posted by smudgie

If I had gone to the bother of pepper sprayng them, I would not use anymore energy in beating them up, just drive over the beggars
Saves them being witnesses against you.

No leave him on the floor crying with his Eyes Stinging
it hurts

Stay Safe
carry a pepper spray in you bag

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

legal V illegal you mean?

No

this Punk is ready to punch you to the ground
he is Stronger than you

But with a Pepper Spray he is on the floor in pain
and you are long gone


Stay Safe

[Livia]

Originally Posted by arista

No

this Punk is ready to punch you to the ground
he is Stronger than you

But with a Pepper Spray he is on the floor in pain
and you are long gone


Stay Safe

And so are you.

It's a weapon, arista. You can be arrested for carrying a weapon because carrying it constitutes premeditation.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Livia

And so are you.

It's a weapon, arista. You can be arrested for carrying a weapon because carrying it constitutes premeditation.

No its Tough out there
you only have it for proper
protection

you are not going round with it on your belt

Its in your bag
your property

[Livia]

Originally Posted by arista

No its Tough out there
you only have it for proper
protection

you are not going round with it on your belt

Its in your bag
your property

By that logic I could keep a knife in my bag for protection. It's illegal... learn self-defence. It's the only legal way.

[jennyjuniper]

Originally Posted by arista

2 Women going to get their car in City Car Park
A man approached told them to hand over their
car key.

That Robber then used their Stolen car
to rob a Local Pizza shop.


(Ref: bbc local south east news today )

At that Point as she goes for her Car Keys she "should"
grab the Super Power Pepper spray - into his Face
even goes through masks.


These Small Time Punks
get caught.


But next tine women
use you pepper spray
leave the Punk on the floor in pain
get into you car drive off
then Phone the Police 999 number


Life In The City.

Good idea. Another is to have a bunch of keys and lace them through your fingers so that when you have a fist it's full of nice sharp edges. Then there is always that old tried and tested one, the kick in the gonads, guarenteed to reduce any would be yob to a grovelling pile.

[arista]

Originally Posted by jennyjuniper

Good idea. Another is to have a bunch of keys and lace them through your fingers so that when you have a fist it's full of nice sharp edges. Then there is always that old tried and tested one, the kick in the gonads, guarenteed to reduce any would be yob to a grovelling pile.

Yes

but pepper spray is faster to get him on the floor
you then leave