[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

You're going off topic

Um, no I'm not. My point is actually very relevant. If you're going to defend Katie's right to make a choice, it's entirely reasonable to bring up the fact that she insults others for their choices (and is supported by some for that).

Not that I'm surprised by your refusal to actually address that.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

Um, no I'm not. My point is actually very relevant. If you're going to defend Katie's right to make a choice, it's entirely reasonable to bring up the fact that she insults others for their choices (and is supported by some for that).

Not that I'm surprised by your refusal to actually address that.

I defend and always will defend Katies and everyone else right to her own opinion,on any subject she chooses

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I defend and always will defend Katies and everyone else right to her own opinion,on any subject she chooses

And there it is, thanks very much for proving my point. That sums up while we'll never have a rational discussion on Katie Hopkins, so I won't bother trying again.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

And there it is, thanks very much for proving my point. That sums up while we'll never have a rational discussion on Katie Hopkins, so I won't bother trying again.

No point having a proper debate about her , you'll get the silly one liners like "Ugh , I hate her so much" then "Oh she is racist" and "KH , hates fat people" "KH has a big nose and is ugly"not to mention the Palestinian line ,lol really , people have pre conceived ideas of her already , so what's the point ?you can only debate with people who are open minded and think about things and not blindly hate someone because their mates do , I am not saying you at all , but it's noticeable in here that people are not prepared for any debate or explanations they just really want to get one over on each other , I see not much is said about the vile things Perez has said , would this be because people don't WANT to know? Hmm I am happy if people want to support Perez who calls peoples kids fat and ugly , and wished death on people , just at least understand why some of us like someone else. At this point it's not really about the housemates just which of the fans are right.

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

No point having a proper debate about her , you'll get the silly one liners like "Ugh , I hate her so much" then "Oh she is racist" and "KH , hates fat people" "KH has a big nose and is ugly"not to mention the Palestinian line ,lol really , people have pre conceived ideas of her already , so what's the point ?you can only debate with people who are open minded and think about things and not blindly hate someone because their mates do , I am not saying you at all , but it's noticeable in here that people are not prepared for any debate or explanations they just really want to get one over on each other , I see not much is said about the vile things Perez has said , would this be because people don't WANT to know? Hmm I am happy if people want to support Perez who calls peoples kids fat and ugly , and wished death on people , just at least understand why some of us someone else. At this point it's not really about the housemates just which of the fans are right.

Merely for some warped thinking that it would have some kind of effect.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

No point having a proper debate about her , you'll get the silly one liners like "Ugh , I hate her so much" then "Oh she is racist" and "KH , hates fat people" "KH has a big nose and is ugly"not to mention the Palestinian line ,lol really , people have pre conceived ideas of her already , so what's the point ?you can only debate with people who are open minded and think about things and not blindly hate someone because their mates do , I am not saying you at all , but it's noticeable in here that people are not prepared for any debate or explanations they just really want to get one over on each other , I see not much is said about the vile things Perez has said , would this be because people don't WANT to know? Hmm I am happy if people want to support Perez who calls peoples kids fat and ugly , and wished death on people , just at least understand why some of us someone else. At this point it's not really about the housemates just which of the fans are right.

Defending everything KH says and not even being willing to admit her faults is hardly having an "open mind", is it? That's what I was referring to. I've admitted the times when I saw a nicer side to her (her reaction to Alicia leaving, for example), and I've admitted the faults in those I like. Shame not everyone will do the same.

And how did this, yet again, turn into a discussion about Perez? Seriously, someone disliking Hopkins doesn't automatically mean they like Perez.