[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

he Football Association has promised a thorough investigation into allegations that West Ham United fans at White Hart Lane for Sunday’s Premier League match against Tottenham Hotspur used language that was derogatory and insulting towards people with learning disabilities.

The allegation has been made by Kevin Kilbane, the TV pundit and former Republic of Ireland international as well as a patron of the Down’s Syndrome Association. His 10-year-old daughter, Elsie, has Down’s syndrome

He was not at the game but was informed of the chants by Andy Merriman, a Tottenham season-ticket holder and author, whose daughter, Sarah, also has Down’s syndrome. Merriman was ghost writer of Kilbane’s autobiography, Killa. “It was very clear and sadly it appeared to be from a large number of West Ham fans in the ground,” Kilbane told the Mirror and the Mail. “This was not isolated to a handful of people.”

http://www.theguardian.com/football/...-fans-disabled

Wow... that's low here's a new link that appears to confirm that they did.
'Hammers fans sang the chant during the 2-2 draw at Tottenham on Sunday'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31601296

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Kevin Kilbane He was at a dinner dance thing I was at for my sons soccer club as the guest speaker. He's so good looking in r/l, much more so then in pictures I think

Niamh! What kind of speaker was he?

[MTVN]

Apparently that video of the foreskin song was several years old. It's not a nice song in fairness and there has been a problem in the past with songs about Spurs strong Jewish following. The disabled chant was apparently 'Harry Kane talks like a mong and plays like one too'. Again its not nice if true - Kilbane only heard that it was sung - but it would hardly distinguish West Ham fans out as abnormally bad. Spurs fans might as well be reported for calling our fans 'pikeys'. And this is also the club that sang 'your father washes elephants and your mother's a *****' to Adebayor, sang disgusting songs about Sol Campbell and has been complained about for using the term 'rentboys' about Chelsea fans. All clubs do have idiots. It is also true that Chelsea have always been the ones with the biggest racism problem, its what attracted a lot of hooligans to their Headhunters firm

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Niamh! What kind of speaker was he?

Very good, he was a really nice guy too, he stayed around after the dinner and had a few drinks at the bar and chatted with people

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Singing Iv got a foreskin and you aint?

This type of banter aimed at spurs fans to wind them up is standard issue, its not anti-semitism unless you dont understand football.

Spurs have a large jewish following, jewish men dont have foreskin

these are facts. The fans are not hating on jewish people they are trying to wind up spurs fans because they dislike them


Jesus H Christ on a bike the reaching....

Lay off Jesus.

I have no foreskin and I'm not Jewish. Though I did used to work in a Bar Mitzvah clinic. I loved it, though the pay was crap there were plenty of tips.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Very good, he was a really nice guy too, he stayed around after the dinner and had a few drinks at the bar and chatted with people

Did you get near this 'good looking' nice guy?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Lay off Jesus.

I have no foreskin and I'm not Jewish. Though I did used to work in a Bar Mitzvah clinic. I loved it, though the pay was crap there were plenty of tips.

why did some one mutilate your penis?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Did you get near this 'good looking' nice guy?

haha yeah, he's not as good looking as my husband mind you

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

why did some one mutilate your penis?

Twot - let me have the last word.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

haha yeah, he's not as good looking as my husband mind you

Awww Niamh, that's really a mint thing to say. I hope that's what my missus says when I'm not there.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Apparently that video of the foreskin song was several years old. It's not a nice song in fairness and there has been a problem in the past with songs about Spurs strong Jewish following. The disabled chant was apparently 'Harry Kane talks like a mong and plays like one too'. Again its not nice if true - Kilbane only heard that it was sung - but it would hardly distinguish West Ham fans out as abnormally bad. Spurs fans might as well be reported for calling our fans 'pikeys'. And this is also the club that sang 'your father washes elephants and your mother's a *****' to Adebayor, sang disgusting songs about Sol Campbell and has been complained about for using the term 'rentboys' about Chelsea fans. All clubs do have idiots. It is also true that Chelsea have always been the ones with the biggest racism problem, its what attracted a lot of hooligans to their Headhunters firm

People need to realise that football fans want to annoy the other fans and the banter is aimed at them and no one else



Kick it out need to f uck right off the right on twats

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Kevin Kilbane He was at a dinner dance thing I was at for my sons soccer club as the guest speaker. He's so good looking in r/l, much more so then in pictures I think

i like how you turned this round Niamh are you a closet Hammer by any chance

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

People need to realise that football fans want to annoy the other fans and the banter is aimed at them and no one else



Kick it out need to f uck right off the right on twats

I think most people know the difference between taking the piss and overstepping the mark

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

i like how you turned this round Niamh are you a closet Hammer by any chance

haha no I have to be a Liverpool fan because Gav and my son are

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Apparently that video of the foreskin song was several years old. It's not a nice song in fairness and there has been a problem in the past with songs about Spurs strong Jewish following. The disabled chant was apparently 'Harry Kane talks like a mong and plays like one too'. Again its not nice if true - Kilbane only heard that it was sung - but it would hardly distinguish West Ham fans out as abnormally bad. Spurs fans might as well be reported for calling our fans 'pikeys'. And this is also the club that sang 'your father washes elephants and your mother's a *****' to Adebayor, sang disgusting songs about Sol Campbell and has been complained about for using the term 'rentboys' about Chelsea fans. All clubs do have idiots. It is also true that Chelsea have always been the ones with the biggest racism problem, its what attracted a lot of hooligans to their Headhunters firm

Of course there are idiots in every club just some clubs have more than their fair share

[Livia]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Apparently that video of the foreskin song was several years old. It's not a nice song in fairness and there has been a problem in the past with songs about Spurs strong Jewish following. The disabled chant was apparently 'Harry Kane talks like a mong and plays like one too'. Again its not nice if true - Kilbane only heard that it was sung - but it would hardly distinguish West Ham fans out as abnormally bad. Spurs fans might as well be reported for calling our fans 'pikeys'. And this is also the club that sang 'your father washes elephants and your mother's a *****' to Adebayor, sang disgusting songs about Sol Campbell and has been complained about for using the term 'rentboys' about Chelsea fans. All clubs do have idiots. It is also true that Chelsea have always been the ones with the biggest racism problem, its what attracted a lot of hooligans to their Headhunters firm

All true.

[Kizzy]

What attracts people to the inter city firm?

[Livia]

The ICF contains a tiny, tiny percentage of West Ham "fans", hooligans all. Every club has them... even Leeds. And the ICF today is nothing like the ICF in the 70s and 80s. Stretching a bit there, really.

[Kizzy]

Do you men reaching? Oh I know Leeds had the 'service crew' also in the 70s and 80s, but they aren't being aligned with racism or antisemitism are they?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

What attracts people to the inter city firm?

Top firm in the country and led by Cass Pennant back in the day, a large black man who was pretty handy

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Do you men reaching? Oh I know Leeds had the 'service crew' also in the 70s and 80s, but they aren't being aligned with racism or antisemitism are they?

I have been to Elland road with West Ham a few times and trust me Leeds have there fair share of racists and i would guarantee when Spurs went up there there was all sorts of baiting about gas chambers etc

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I have been to Elland road with West Ham a few times and trust me Leeds have there fair share of racists and i would guarantee when Spurs went up there there was all sorts of baiting about gas chambers etc

If you were with west ham how do you know what happened when spurs were there? You can't guarantee, you can guess.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Top firm in the country and led by Cass Pennant back in the day, a large black man who was pretty handy

What's this got to do with antisemitism?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

If you were with west ham how do you know what happened when spurs were there? You can't guarantee, you can guess.

No, old mrs LT was a spurs fan and went home and away with them

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Do you men reaching? Oh I know Leeds had the 'service crew' also in the 70s and 80s, but they aren't being aligned with racism or antisemitism are they?

No... I men [sic] stretching.

Google 'Leeds United' and 'anti-Semitism'. Google any top club and it'll say much the same. They're all pretty much as bad as each other most especially when they're playing Spurs. Chelsea still is the worst when it comes to racism.