[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Here we go again... immigrants aligned with extremism.
Aren't most immigrants atm eastern European... how many of those sympathise with ISIS?

Six months ago, through an Albanian Kosovo Muslim tenant - a very nice, hardworking decent bloke - I took on the case of his friend, another Albanian Kosovo Muslim man who had a wife and child, and who had been wrongly refused a place on the local council's housing list. I successfully had the decision overturned and he was awarded a very nice 3 bedroom house in a very decent area, but over the 2 months which it took to achieve this, I got to know a significant number of Eastern European immigrants through him.

Whilst I never heard any of them declare any interest in the terrorism which is tearing the world apart, and therefore never heard them utter any support for IS, I did distinctly perceive that the majority of them do not actually like the British and actually witnessed derogatory remarks from some of them about the 'English'.

So no, they may not be aligned with extremism, but they're don't particularly align themselves with the UK or have sympathy with its indegenous people either - in my experience.

And the great majority of them are Muslims which could be a factor come any type of Armageddon fought on British soil.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Six months ago, through an Albanian Kosovo Muslim tenant - a very nice, hardworking decent bloke - I took on the case of his friend, another Albanian Kosovo Muslim man who had a wife and child, and who had been wrongly refused a place on the local council's housing list. I successfully had the decision overturned and he was awarded a very nice 3 bedroom house in a very decent area, but over the 2 months which it took to achieve this, I got to know a significant number of Eastern European immigrants through him.

Whilst I never heard any of them declare any interest in the terrorism which is tearing the world apart, and therefore never heard them utter any support for IS, I did distinctly perceive that the majority of them do not actually like the British and actually witnessed derogatory remarks from some of them about the 'English'.

So no, they may not be aligned with extremism, but they're don't particularly align themselves with the UK or have sympathy with its indegenous people either - in my experience.

And the great majority of them are Muslims which could be a factor come any type of Armageddon fought on British soil.

Oh are we talking again?... ok. The 1 or 2 people you came into contact with during this case I'm sure were very appreciative of your help and support, they may also have come into contact with people who are not so friendly and this could have coloured their perception of the English perhaps?

Your suggestion that in your hypothetical war they would automatically fight against us based solely on the fact they are Muslim is shocking... I will never subscribe to your skewed perception so if you're going to continue espousing these bizarre statements about Muslims could you direct them at someone else please and not me ?

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Oh are we talking again?... ok. The 1 or 2 people you came into contact with during this case I'm sure were very appreciative of your help and support, they may also have come into contact with people who are not so friendly and this could have coloured their perception of the English perhaps?

Your suggestion that in your hypothetical war they would automatically fight against us based solely on the fact they are Muslim is shocking... I will never subscribe to your skewed perception so if you're going to continue espousing these bizarre statements about Muslims could you direct them at someone else please and not me ?

I do not understand why you are allowed to be so vexatious, persistently nasty and rude, yet I am the one who keeps getting infractions and banned for innocuous responses to your insulting posts and having legitimate posts removed. But then again, I believe in debate and not in falsely reporting people when I am outargued.

Now, I have never "espoused bizarre statements about Muslims" so again - I challenge you to corroborate such a misrepresentation and prove just where I have.

As for the post you are responding to, I clearly said: " that the great majority of them are Muslims which could be a factor come any type of Armageddon fought on British soil."

Please NOTE the emboldened words; "COULD BE A FACTOR" which is not unequivocally definitive as YOU ONCE AGAIN SO DISHONESTLY MISREPRESENT BY SAYING THAT I SAID that: "they would automatically fight against us based solely on the fact they are Muslim is shocking.[B]

I CLEARLY DID NOT SAY THAT DID I.

Further: YOU ARE ONCE AGAIN DISHONESTLY MISREPRESENTING WHAT I HAVE SAID IN A POST WHEN YOU STATE: "The 1 or 2 people you came into contact with during this case I'm sure were very appreciative of your help and support, they may also have come into contact with people who are not so friendly and this could have coloured their perception of the English perhaps?"

BECAUSE I CLEARLY STATE "But over the 2 months which it took to achieve this, I got to know a significant number of Eastern European immigrants through him.

Whilst I never heard any of them declare any interest in the terrorism which is tearing the world apart, and therefore never heard them utter any support for IS, I did distinctly perceive that the majority of them do not actually like the British and actually witnessed derogatory remarks from some of them about the 'English'.

Now, "A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF EASTERN EUROPEAN IMMIGRANTS" is not "1 or 2 people" AS YOU CLAIM I SAID IS IT?

PLEASE STOP THIS UTTER DISHONESTY BECAUSE IT IS IMPOVERISHING THE QUALITY OF SERIOUS DEBATE ON THIS FORUM AND IT IS NOT FAIR.

Finally; when you write: "I will never subscribe to your skewed perception" , I could counter that it is your perception which is "skewed" not mine, because you consistently refuse to accept irrefutable TRUTHS, are consistently in a state of denial regarding immigration, terrorism, and politics, and repeatedly attack innocent remarks in posts because you wrongly perceive them to be racist or as attacks on working class people because of your overly defensive extreme left wing personal ideology.

Now I'll await my infraction or another ban - simply for defending myself against insult, rudeness, and dishonesty.