[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Exactly.

Exactly what? ... you're hypothetical modern religion analogy proves nothing.
It has nothing to do with this as the onus is on established religious beliefs, they cannot be changed along with cultural norms.
He hasn't incited any hatred or made public his view it was his own personal interpretation of text. If we seek to change what would that entail?

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Exactly what? ... you're hypothetical modern religion analogy proves nothing.
It has nothing to do with this as the onus is on established religious beliefs, they cannot be changed along with cultural norms.
He hasn't incited any hatred or made public his view it was his own personal interpretation of text. If we seek to change what would that entail?

Exactly as in people wouldn't get away with starting up a religion nowadays with such out dated, sexist and homophobic views so therefore we should not allow already existing religions that hold similar views get away with discrimination just because they say it's part of their religious beliefs. I mean if Religious people are allowed to discriminate because of their religion but non religious people aren't isn't that discriminating against non religious homophobes?

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Exactly as in people wouldn't get away with starting up a religion nowadays with such out dated, sexist and homophobic views so therefore we should not allow already existing religions that hold similar views get away with discrimination just because they say it's part of their religious beliefs. I mean if Religious people are allowed to discriminate because of their religion but non religious people aren't isn't that discriminating against non religious homophobes?

I guess Atheist's could say it was their Humanist views and these views should not be considered inferior to religious views. This would mean they have an equal right to be discriminatory against Gays and/or Gay Marriage.

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

I guess Atheist's could say it was their Humanist views and these views should not be considered inferior to religious views. This would mean they have an equal right to be discriminatory against Gays and/or Gay Marriage.

That doesn't make sense at all, I'm sure there are plenty of homophobic atheists and if the printers were atheists and refused to print the invitations for this couple, I'm sure the couple would still feel discriminated against.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

That doesn't make sense at all, I'm sure there are plenty of homophobic atheists and if the printers were atheists and refused to print the invitations for this couple, I'm sure the couple would still feel discriminated against.

It wasn't supposed to..........

[Cherry Christmas]

Nobody said the guy who wouldn't let Rhianna get her knockers out in a video on his farm had a negative attitude towards women, it just didn't fit with his values, and that was the end of it.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Exactly as in people wouldn't get away with starting up a religion nowadays with such out dated, sexist and homophobic views so therefore we should not allow already existing religions that hold similar views get away with discrimination just because they say it's part of their religious beliefs. I mean if Religious people are allowed to discriminate because of their religion but non religious people aren't isn't that discriminating against non religious homophobes?

We can't change what was written thousands of years ago.
You could suggest the bible is hate propaganda and call for it to be burned... good luck with that.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

I guess Atheist's could say it was their Humanist views and these views should not be considered inferior to religious views. This would mean they have an equal right to be discriminatory against Gays and/or Gay Marriage.

And it would be completely wrong, just like this is

Originally Posted by Cherie

Nobody said the guy who wouldn't let Rhianna get her knockers out in a video on his farm had a negative attitude towards women, it just didn't fit with his values, and that was the end of it.

I don't really think they're comparable

Originally Posted by Kizzy

We can't change what was written thousands of years ago.
You could suggest the bible is hate propaganda and call for it to be burned... good luck with that.

Or I could just suggest what I have been all through this thread, that discrimination like this should not be tolerated by our governments

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Or I could just suggest what I have been all through this thread, that discrimination like this should not be tolerated by our governments

There are hate laws in place to prohibit inciting discrimination via any means, what has this to do with personal views?

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

There are hate laws in place to prohibit inciting discrimination via any means, what has this to do with personal views?

You've actually lost me now Kizzy.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

You've actually lost me now Kizzy.

You said it shouldn't be tolerated by government, they aren't.
But until we get rid of all churches and have thought police individuals with religious views can think as they like.

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

And it would be completely wrong, just like this is



I don't really think they're comparable



Or I could just suggest what I have been all through this thread, that discrimination like this should not be tolerated by our governments

Why are they not comparable? The farmer exercised his rights to do as he felt and believed on his property, the printer is doing the same, is he not being discriminated against for his beliefs?