[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I am stunned at any beer and alcohol cut as to duty, the NHS is flooded with people with alcohol related problems, this govts; answer,make it cheaper.

Overall this was a neutral budget mixed with a fair amount of fantasy as to living standards for 'all'. as to recovery and growth.

I actually thought Ed Miliband made good points, in the house of commons, the noise is excruciating and overpowering.
It is hard for any politician, particularly when being yelled at to keep on track and ensure they get heard.
It happened to shadow Mnisters from the Conservatives when in opposition too from Labour members,no politician is immune from it.

I actually think for the vast majority of voters, this budget presentation will just go over their heads, too much technical jargon and not enough clear explanation.

The one thing most will notice is the main lie, that people are better off under this govt; then they were in 2010.
That was a really patronising own goal from the Chancellor.

Ed Miliband was right to, to point out, all his targets figures of the election campaign of 2010, have just about all been missed,as to growth, the deficit and time of assured strong recovery.
I say assured because when these took power there was already a recovery in place and growth of around 1% too, which was then completely eroded within 2 quarters and did not solidly return until 2014.

Of course he has had successes too, no one can deny from his perspective,he has the good of the country in his mind, it is how he plans to get there, tramping over the weakest, poorest and most vulnerable that make just about all his planned measures wrong.

Measures that didn't work for nearly 4 years before and ones that could again risk the recovery and growth there is now.
Half succeeding over 5 years with such severe policies all through, does not inspire confidence that they will work now over the same time again with even more severe cuts to be put in place.
No thank you, not for me.

The weakest, the poorest,te most vulnerable, sick and disabled,and also genuine jobseekers warrant a far better and more compassionate way of supporting them in work, out of work and who are incapable of work,especially those on 16 hour contracts and zero hour contracts too
Not forgetting the NHS, because quite frankly from all I heard today, he is going to have to save money on a great scale and there are only 2 things he can really hit, that is the NHS and Welfare spending.

Those that care about those things and in fairness and justice for the people they affect overall,need to think carefully about ever trusting this lot with those vulnerable issues again.
Cameron had a hidden agenda as to the NHS last time and I fear he has a bigger one this time, no matter what he says as to it.
He blatantly lied last time in the debates as to this issue and so I for one won't take his word on the NHS again.

It also really is time to stop tramping into the ground,those who are the most vulnerable, sick and disabled,I heard not a thing for them here at all today from the Chancellor.

Joey...............THEY DON'T CARE.......they really couldn't give a fig about the lower working classes and below. They know Labour do not have a cat in hell's chance of winning this election let alone winning enough enough seats to form a Labour Govt.

With SNP decimating the Labour MP's in Scotland and UKIP doing the same thing in the North of England Labour will probably have about 75 MP's or less than they had 5 years ago. The Tories know they are onto a winner albeit in another coalition so this Budget was crowing at its best.

Such a shame though as the Tories have not really demonstrated they have the right formula for recovery and a lot of their numbers and forecasts are suspect as has already been discussed in earlier posts.

I think the next govt will be Cons led coalition poss with SNP's and UKIP and mayber the Lib Dems but it will be 80% Tory with the same faces in the senior cabinet positions.