[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

License to Drill

Now this is a BETTER thread.

[Kizzy]

Generational thing Isn't that what Rozanne Duncan said?
He would make a great bond, not that I really like bond films they're all a bit samey.

[Mystic Mock]

I'm a big believer that peoples colour of skin, and gender should be left well alone, unless they did a complete remake of the franchise.

[susie q]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I would like to see Alan Carr get a chance

I might actually watch a bond film with him in it

[GiRTh]

I dont see why he wouldn't make a great Bond. I dont see why his skin colour has anything to do with the quality of his acting. Idris is one of the finest British actors atm if he isnt considered for the next Bond then I dont see who should be.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Livia

It's a generational thing, I'm sure.

Personally I don't think Idris Elba should be Bond because he isn't a good enough actor. I loved 'Luther', but his acting was a little cringey sometimes. Colin Salmon though... if they were looking for a black Bond, he would be perfect.

Colin Salmon was in Die another day so he's less likely to be considered than Idris. If you say Idris is not a good actor then who do you think is better? Don't judge his abilities by Luther its a crazy show and his acting reflects the mood of the show.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

I dont see why he wouldn't make a great Bond. I dont see why his skin colour has anything to do with the quality of his acting. Idris is one of the finest British actors atm if he isnt considered for the next Bond then I dont see who should be.

It's got nothing to do with his skin colour or acting ability Girth, but all to do with the character and ethnicity of James Bond as he was written and created by Ian Fleming.

I love Idris Elba but for me personally, casting any black actor in the role of Bond is absolute stupidity and 'change for change's sake'.

I detest all those ridiculous 'classical' paintings by early artists which depict Jesus as a Ginger haired white man for the same reason.

Should Keanu Reeves have played 'Shaft'? Or Robert Redford played Virgil Tibbs in 'The Heat of The Night'? How ridiculous would it have been for Daniel Radcliffe to have played Martin Luther King instead of David Oyelowo in 'Selma'?

[Gstar]

Still think that Idris should be bond

[Brother Leon]

Originally Posted by Livia

It's a generational thing, I'm sure.

Personally I don't think Idris Elba should be Bond because he isn't a good enough actor. I loved 'Luther', but his acting was a little cringey sometimes. Colin Salmon though... if they were looking for a black Bond, he would be perfect.

Watch him in The Wire. He would be more than good enough imo.

[Niamh.]

The whole he's not English enough is bull**** when they've already had a Scottish and Irish actor play him

[JoshBB]

first of all, i have never heard of him.

second of all, it surely should be based on his acting skills and suitibility to the role and race should not come into that? plus he was born english so surely his "background" would be hackney as specified on wikipedia.

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

first of all, i have never heard of him.

second of all, it surely should be based on his acting skills and suitibility to the role and race should not come into that? plus he was born english so surely his "background" would be hackney as specified on wikipedia.

he played James Bond in the 80s

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

Watch him in The Wire. He would be more than good enough imo.

This. Luther requires too much over acting which isnt his strong suit.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

It's got nothing to do with his skin colour or acting ability Girth, but all to do with the character and ethnicity of James Bond as he was written and created by Ian Fleming.

I love Idris Elba but for me personally, casting any black actor in the role of Bond is absolute stupidity and 'change for change's sake'.

I detest all those ridiculous 'classical' paintings by early artists which depict Jesus as a Ginger haired white man for the same reason.

Should Keanu Reeves have played 'Shaft'? Or Robert Redford played Virgil Tibbs in 'The Heat of The Night'? How ridiculous would it have been for Daniel Radcliffe to have played Martin Luther King instead of David Oyelowo in 'Selma'?

I have no issue wth Keanu Reeves playing Shaft but Redford could never have played Virgil Tibbs cuz there was a racist element to the film. I dont see why a characters ethnicity cant change.

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

It's got nothing to do with his skin colour or acting ability Girth, but all to do with the character and ethnicity of James Bond as he was written and created by Ian Fleming.

I love Idris Elba but for me personally, casting any black actor in the role of Bond is absolute stupidity and 'change for change's sake'.

I detest all those ridiculous 'classical' paintings by early artists which depict Jesus as a Ginger haired white man for the same reason.

Should Keanu Reeves have played 'Shaft'? Or Robert Redford played Virgil Tibbs in 'The Heat of The Night'? How ridiculous would it have been for Daniel Radcliffe to have played Martin Luther King instead of David Oyelowo in 'Selma'?

Daniel Radcliffe might have made a good Martin Luther King tbh

[Northern Monkey]

Hmm.With modern Bond films i honestly don't think the ethnicity of the actor matters.Bond is'nt based on a real person,He is fictional.Obviously a white MLK or White Ali or Black William Wallace would'nt be believable but for Bond i really don't see a problem.

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

This. Luther requires too much over acting which isnt his strong suit.

It's just a weird point really when Bond films aren't exactly renowned for their acting chops

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Shaun

It's just a weird point really when Bond films aren't exactly renowned for their acting chops

Agree.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

Daniel Radcliffe might have made a good Martin Luther King tbh

You are joking?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Generational thing Isn't that what Rozanne Duncan said?
He would make a great bond, not that I really like bond films they're all a bit samey.

If you're going to poke fun at something I've said, at least have the courtesy to quote the thing at which you're poking fun.

It is a generational thing. The older generation think differently about race than the younger generation do. Or are you going to argue about that too?

And emoticons Kizzy? I've seen you tick at least two people off for using emoticons in Serious Debates.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

first of all, i have never heard of him.

second of all, it surely should be based on his acting skills and suitibility to the role and race should not come into that? plus he was born english so surely his "background" would be hackney as specified on wikipedia.

Of course you haven't heard of him. You're fourteen.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

If you're going to poke fun at something I've said, at least have the courtesy to quote the thing at which you're poking fun.

It is a generational thing. The older generation think differently about race than the younger generation do. Or are you going to argue about that too?

And emoticons Kizzy? I've seen you tick at least two people off for using emoticons in Serious Debates.

I didn't even realise it was you, I don't think it should be a valid excuse for bigotry no. And it was gifs not emoticons.

[Tom4784]

Sean Connery and George Lazenby weren't English, the latter wasn't even British. I don't think Nationality or appearance matters too much as long as you can pull off the Bond charm and personality and I think Idris Elba could definitely do that.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I didn't even realise it was you, I don't think it should be a valid excuse for bigotry no. And it was gifs not emoticons.

Where is there any bigotry? Please expound.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Where is there any bigotry? Please expound.

'It is a generational thing. The older generation think differently about race than the younger generation do.'

Here, This is a generalised statement that suggests the aged population are bigoted.
Personally I don't believe this is true.