[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Josy

Its a discussion about infractions in general, it's not a thread for you to bring up any infractions that you have a problem with, an infraction from months ago too that you could have pmed a mod about at the time if you wanted to discuss it.

I did and nobody discussed it with me at the time.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I did and nobody discussed it with me at the time.

Then we clearly never felt it needed to be discussed, more than likely because it is a rule break no matter how you try to cover it up by claiming it was a joke.

[Liam-]

You insulted fans, that's an infraction worthy rule break, get over it

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

So basically we get treated for our past criminal record?

What happened to rehabilitation?

If you were rehabilitated you wouldn't have to worry about your past record would you?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Liam-

You insulted fans, that's an infraction worthy rule break, get over it

It's not if it was a joke, I mean that's just common sense that most Forums use, including this one normally.

And Josy it should've been discussed when most of the Forum was laughing at the post, because guess what? They took it as a joke instead of someone just having some personal vendetta against Perez fans at the time and saw it as a way to strike.

[Liam-]

I have to say, i remember reporting that post, not because you were a Perez fan, that didn't bother me, the comment itself bothered me, if you meant it as a joke, it was a greatly misjudged and offensive one which didn't seem like a joke at all.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

It's not if it was a joke, I mean that's just common sense that most Forums use, including this one normally.

And Josy it should've been discussed when most of the Forum was laughing at the post, because guess what? They took it as a joke instead of someone just having some personal vendetta against Perez fans at the time and saw it as a way to strike.

One person laughed Mock

It was during on season and we were probably busy, if you wanted a reply that much you should have pmed one of us however you would have been told exactly what myself and Vicky have told you in this thread.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Liam-

I have to say, i remember reporting that post, not because you were a Perez fan, that didn't bother me, the comment itself bothered me, if you meant it as a joke, it was a greatly misjudged and offensive one which didn't seem like a joke at all.

No but I remember you being very caught up at the time though and may have just saw it as a personal attack.

Imo when people are getting all carried away like that is when the Mods should step in and have a look at the context first, instead of just infracting and then when I try to explain myself back to them, they don't reply.

[Vicky.]

Joking with friends is a world away from joking with people you don't know.

We can generally tell the difference. With 'in jokes' we do often ignore insults and stuff unless the person on the recieving end reports.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

No but I remember you being very caught up at the time though and may have just saw it as a personal attack.

Imo when people are getting all carried away like that is when the Mods should step in and have a look at the context first, instead of just infracting and then when I try to explain myself back to them, they don't reply.

It was a personal attack on Hopkins fans, hence why it was reported and you got infracted for it, don't try and swing it around on the people who got offended

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Josy

One person laughed Mock

It was during on season and we were probably busy, if you wanted a reply that much you should have pmed one of us however you would have been told exactly what myself and Vicky have told you in this thread.

That you get infracted for a joke? Even though everyone would probably be banned on here by now (including myself) if all "offensive" jokes was to be taken literally within the rules.

There's no excuses here, it should've been reversed.

[Josy]

Are you seriously not reading what we have said?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Liam-

It was a personal attack on Hopkins fans, hence why it was reported and you got infracted for it, don't try and swing it around on the people who got offended

You do realise that a personal attack actually has to mean that the member is meaning the attack right?

And Mods seem to just infract anyone that gets reported which is a bit silly, and as I've already said a lot of Hopkins fans was on edge in that series because everybody elses fans hated their favourite, and imo I think some of them couldn't handle the Forum jokes very well as I remember that 10 page thread that also got shut down on me because I dared to call Perez "Jesus" or the time when he survived against Nadia and how I apparently was "disrespecting Freddie Mercury's name" by saying we are the champions.

But back on my original issue, having a joke shouldn't get you infracted, otherwise we all would've been infracted at some point with our jokes because they've offended people.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Josy

Are you seriously not reading what we have said?

I have, and you all are point blank refusing to back down on something that you all know that you overreacted over.

[Jessica.]

See people, my dislike for Mock wasn't unfounded, once you engage him he doesn't quit.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I have, and you all are point blank refusing to back down on something that you all know that you overreacted over.

Refusing to back down for one of the most obviously justified infractions we gave out last BB?

[Liam-]

Mock just stop now, you're just rambling

You insulted fans, in a way that obviously wasn't seen as a 'joke' - like you say it was meant to be - and got rightfully infracted for it, stop trying to blame everyone else.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I have, and you all are point blank refusing to back down on something that you all know that you overreacted over.

Okay, I'm breaking this down for you one last time..

You broke a rule, it doesnt matter if you claim that it was a joke as it was still a rule break, you offended other members with the comment that you posted and the last 2 infractions you have on your profile before the one you are going on about now where for discussing fans so you knew before you even posted the 'joke' that you were breaking a rule.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

If you were rehabilitated you wouldn't have to worry about your past record would you?

Josy? Niamh keeps bumping my posts and making me look a fool. Ban ha

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

See people, my dislike for Mock wasn't unfounded, once you engage him he doesn't quit.

Tbf though the Mods and Admin don't like people causing trouble over infractions on the Forum, yet they don't engage with the members that do try to PM them over the issue, and then come up with rules that don't exist to excuse their mistake.

[Josy]

Mock you never pmed any of us about your infraction..

Moving on..

[Jessica.]

Oh my god.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Tbf though the Mods and Admin don't like people causing trouble over infractions on the Forum, yet they don't engage with the members that do try to PM them over the issue, and then come up with rules that don't exist to excuse their mistake.

Originally Posted by Benjamin

J

Do not insult fans of housemates. It is fine to insult housemates, to a certain extent...as long as it is not too over the top (eg. $^&%*%(% is such a fat ugly horrible bitch, I wish she would just die a horrible and painful death) but insulting fans, counts as insulting other FMs. This includes stereotyping fans (IE. all &^%&*$%&^ fans are shallow) and accusing people of jumping on bandwagons, just because they like someone you do not.

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[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Mock just stop now, you're just rambling

You insulted fans, in a way that obviously wasn't seen as a 'joke' - like you say it was meant to be - and got rightfully infracted for it, stop trying to blame everyone else.

How is it rightfully infracted if the Mods made a mistake once I explained it to them, that's the whole point of reversing the infraction system isn't it?

[Liam-]

Ban him