[the truth]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

The sad thing is I wish the NHS was not part of political wrangling,however once this not voted for top down re-organsiation of the NHS was done by Cameron,it has caused massive problems and dismay among NHS staff,

There are Doctors and even Nurses who support the Conservatives,the thread asks if the Conservatives are a threat to the NHS, my answer is the same, only yes this present conservative party and this conservative PM is.

It is true, Conservative PMs and govts; have up to Margaret Thatchers worked well for the NHS in the past, definitely not however this one.

There is a candidate standing in Jeremy Hunt's own seat for the National Health party who want the reforms repealed,so bad were they.

This PM and govt; just will not listen and rides through like a bulldozer the opinions of the the medical staff employed in the NHS.
Dismissing everything and acheiving nothing at all, because in my view he doesn't want to achieve anything, other than bring it to its knees to be snapped up by private organisations who will then be able to run it on a profit basis,not a 'care' basis.

This attempt to 'manipulate' a letter does not surprise me,they will try any trick at all.
I am glad this didn't succeed and hope it means another backlash for this PM and this govt;

I actually feel sorry for Jeremy Hunt, the Health Minister, he has just been made to appear a better face to keep pushing Andrew Lansley's reforms through for this PM.
It is sad the NHS is a political football but until it has all it needs to face whatever is thrown at it and secured so that future reforms are too complex and costly to make, it will be.

It needs a period of stability and more to the point continuity of policy.
Hopefully if Labour are the party leading the next govt; and Andy Burnham is a concensus politician,then with a new Conservative leader perhaps there can be an agreed programme for the NHS with full security on an agreed long term policy as to its future.

That will never happen with this PM and this Conservative govt; however.
They have to be removed,in my strong view, from having anything further to do with the NHS.

but labour reduced nhs funding in wales the tories increased it in england

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by the truth

but labour reduced nhs funding in wales the tories increased it in england

The didn't increase it,they ringfenced the original spending budget for the NHS set by the outgoing Labour govt; therefore accepting at that time that Labour was spending enough on the NHS.

They didn't protect that spending however fron inflation costs and also wasted a massive amount of money on a not voted for, unnecessary top down re-organisation of the NHS.

In real truth, with the rise in cost over the years of this govt; the NHS has had likely less than had it been protected as to taking into account the rising costs due to inflation too.

While you are right Labour has made a cut to NHS spending in Wales,you have to take into account this govt; has cut the funding to the Welsh assembly and since most things are already cut to the bone as to services in Wales, some hard decisons had to be made.

All the countries of the UK have some problems with the NHS,in my view,Wales needs more funding from this govt; it doesn't get anywhere near enough and the funding from central govt; has been cut way too much.
Instead of wasting costs on a top down re-organisation of the NHS, this govt; would have been better ensuring it had a reserve set up to cover problems in the NHS across the UK, after all this is still the 'UK' govt; overall.

Rather than wring its hands with glee at the problemswith the NHS in Wales,it should be helping the citizens of Wales by giving more funding to help sort out any problems.
However since they won't even do that in the English NHS that say just about everything about this govt; and the NHS.

Have some conflict in the middle east however and this govt; could find funds a plenty to put in to that as they did for Libya and would have done for Syria too.