[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Livia

Labour found substantial funds for Middle East conflicts too, joey. Labour took us there in the first place. It's a little unfair, I think, throwing that particular argument at this government.

True, but they did so before the 'global' banking/financial crisis and recession hit to be fair too.
I neither agreed with Iraq or Afghanistan anyway to be honest.

However,even when hitting the UK citizens with massive austerity measures, this govt; made almost unlimited funds available for the Libya exercise, and look at the state Libya is now in after the use of all those funds.

AS for this govt's; announcement today as to funding the NHS,this late into an election campaign with no plans to do so before until now, not even when the Chancellor presented his budget a few weeks ago.

I think since I have made it clear endlessly now,(probably to the point of boring everyone to death), I for one, don't believe a word David Cameron says as to the NHS, after his blatant lie as to the top down re-organisation,I think after the election,this increase would be downgraded or would not materialise at all.

I totally don't trust David Cameron as to the NHS, and he has shown he will lie about it to get elected before, so I no way will believe a word he says on it.
Not a chance from me,if I had power,I wouldn't let him or this cabinet he leads,near it ever again as to decisions as to its future.
So although very predictable my response to this likely will be seen,at least I am consistent.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

True, but they did so before the 'global' banking/financial crisis and recession hit to be fair too.
I neither agreed with Iraq or Afghanistan anyway to be honest.

However,even when hitting the UK citizens with massive austerity measures, this govt; made almost unlimited funds available for the Libya exercise, and look at the state Libya is now in after the use of all those funds.

AS for this govt's; announcement today as to funding the NHS,this late into an election campaign with no plans to do so before until now, not even when the Chancellor presented his budget a few weeks ago.

I think since I have made it clear endlessly now,(probably to the point of boring everyone to death), I for one, don't believe a word David Cameron says as to the NHS, after his blatant lie as to the top down re-organisation,I think after the election,this increase would be downgraded or would not materialise at all.

I totally don't trust David Cameron as to the NHS, and he has shown he will lie about it to get elected before, so I no way will believe a word he says on it.
Not a chance from me,if I had power,I wouldn't let him or this cabinet he leads,near it ever again as to decisions as to its future.
So although very predictable my response to this likely will be seen,at least I am consistent.

You most certainly are, and I wholeheartedly agree that this looks like a last ditch attempt and a soundbite rather than something that was planned and budgeted for within their policies, it's clearly been shoehorned in at the last minute.
Even the tales of his poor deceased son and their subsequent marital problems appear geared towards some last minute sympathy vote, I hate saying that but that's how it's coming across to me.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

You most certainly are, and I wholeheartedly agree that this looks like a last ditch attempt and a soundbite rather than something that was planned and budgeted for within their policies, it's clearly been shoehorned in at the last minute.
Even the tales of his poor deceased son and their subsequent marital problems appear geared towards some last minute sympathy vote, I hate saying that but that's how it's coming across to me.

I 100% sympathise with the Camerons as to their son, that must have been a really horrible and emotionally testing time for them.
I have no doubt he is a caring husband and a really good Father.

However,it does irk me a little when they use the child as an example as to how they regard the NHS and how wonderful they say it was at the time for their son, which I have no doubt it was too.

Had that resulted in full protection and more investment in the NHS from his govt; once he got power, then that would have been commendable.
Since once getting power he turned the NHS almost upside down with one of the biggest re-organisations of it, well that doesn't inspire me to believe he had much regard for it in reality.

Added to that,I think now of the parents with children who have special needs and disabililties 'now',who since this govt; came to power have seen appointments put back,operations put back and even cancelled,plus lengthy delays as to some relevant treatments too.

Despite all Cameron says in public as to the NHS, he has shown scant regard for those parents,waiting too for their own children to get what they really need from the NHS.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I 100% sympathise with the Camerons as to their son, that must have been a really horrible and emotionally testing time for them.
I have no doubt he is a caring husband and a really good Father.

However,it does irk me a little when they use the child as an example as to how they regard the NHS and how wonderful they say it was at the time for their son, which I have no doubt it was too.

Had that resulted in full protection and more investment in the NHS from his govt; once he got power, then that would have been commendable.
Since once getting power he turned the NHS almost upside down with one of the biggest re-organisations of it, well that doesn't inspire me to believe he had much regard for it in reality.

Added to that,I think now of the parents with children who have special needs and disabililties 'now',who since this govt; came to power have seen appointments put back,operations put back and even cancelled,plus lengthy delays as to some relevant treatments too.

Despite all Cameron says in public as to the NHS, he has shown scant regard for those parents,waiting too for their own children to get what they really need from the NHS.

Totally Joey, I would have expected a triple lock of protections and a patient centred approach to NHS care of the profoundly disabled at the very least. knowing how vital the protection of this service is for those with long term complex needs in both healthcare and welfare...but no.